One thing that amuses me.. look how many USED Wii's are for sale... and for 5 Wii's... http://cgi.ebay.com/5-UNITS-OF-NINTENDO-Wii-NEW-NEVER-OPENED_W0QQitemZ110098111406QQihZ001QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Some, but look at the prices vs. new. EDIT: For reference, here's a similar search for other consoles: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=ps3%20console http://sfbay.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=360%20console

Heh. The Wii DOES look saturated... looks like their haveing trouble selling them over 290$... Lots of people real close to 250... :P (for new ones) :P EDIT: And the 500$ 60gb PS3 is killer... THAT'S WHAT YOU GET YOU TARD FOR BUYING 50 OF THEM... HAHAHA.

I hope it is, or at least that this is the result of Nintendo's increased production. I've been seeing identical pictures in the hands of "resellers" for months. I do agree about the guy with the $500 PS3, and hope to see the same with the Wii as soon as possible. Scalpers are one of the few things I can't stand; that's actually what prompted me to look for console numbers to begin with.

Haha. But yeah. Everyone says the Wii is so rare... Does anyone know how many scalpers there? Well over 800 Nintendo Wii on e-bay. around 300 expireing in the next 24 hours. :P that's a good 300*31= at least 10,000/month. :P I dont care how you look at it. When Nintendo's production surpasses demand... These scalpers are gonna have probibally 10,000 to 20,000 in their grubby hands... and not be able to sell them. That is gonna add a MAJOR influx to the NDS numbers. It's bedtime for me so nitenite all. Lifes a scalper... then you wii.

Hopefully it will put these people off from doing the same thing in the future; I won't cry for them. It should also give prospective gamers a source for even less expensive Wii consoles, like that PS3 you mentioned.

I wouldn't worry either way. Nintendo's 'blue ocean' strategy will take time to build the legs and critical mass to really go after the mainstream mainstream. Anyone who'se gone through what it takes to get a Wii so far is at least somewhat a gamer, or a very dedicated convert: most people won't bother until they're readily available on shelves. All the early-adopter enthusiasts out there who've snagged Wiis are going to function as ambassadors for the Wii working pro bono for Nintendo: NOBODY can pick up Wii Sports and not want to own it! (quickie: I had a totally non-gamer buddy pop in last night for no other reason than to play this Wii thing he knew I had and everyone is talking about... he's an absolute natural at the tennis: improved my rating significantly playing with my character... and he's going to get the first new gaming console since he was 13 :) Also the DS/DS lite seem to have gone through several cycles of being sold out and available on shelves: hasn't stop them from crushing all competition in the process.

...and I strongly suspect it won't be long at all - as soon as supply becomes semi-reliable - that we'll see a $200 USD Wii. They could let MS force their hand when they cut the 360s price, but it doesn't seem like the Nintendo we know to have their hand force by the competition like that: better to make the move themselves. I suspect Nintendo sees the long-term sweet-spot for the Wii at a DS-esq $150

iTrackr is now at 14% for wii. up 1% from yesterday. I think Wii will drop down to 150$ near the end of 2008. And in the end probibally 100$. (at least it should. It has less than 100$ worth of hardware in it today.)

For waht it is worth, I did an unscientific survey of Wii, PS3 and Playstation 3(I did two separate surveys for the PS3 for both the acronym and full name. Both will be 60 GB skus) prices on eBay. All prices include shipping. My method: I picked up five eligible auctions on the completed listing page in order from top to bottom to prevent handpicking. In order for an auction to be eligible, both seller and buyer should have more than 5 feedback and an average rating of more than 98%. All auctions have to have been won the old eBay way, no Buy it Nows, no Dutch auction, no eBay express. Auctions have to only include one box of the system, no extra accessories, no extra games. If something is not packed in, the auction is ineligible. I also only counted the lowest possible shipping rates(this includes handling in most cases). And taxes were not counted. All systems were North American units. Unsold auctions are also ineligible. My results: Wii is selling at an average of US$358 including shipping. The PS3 is selling at US$571.82 including shipping. Playstation 3 is selling at US$577.65 inluding shipping. Damn, I just wasted like half an hour.