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Forums - Microsoft Discussion - HDMI Premium is NOT Falcon... It's Zephyr

Red_Toof on 10 August 2007

The details, along with photo evidence, is covered on this Joystiq article:

 http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/10/spot-the-hdmi-enabled-xbox-360-premium-at-retail/

 

 I know there are other threads about HDMI preimums, but all seem to imply the new Premium is the Falcon, it is apparently not.

 Still the new Zephyr Premiums are great news, but I'm hoping my current 360 can hang on until the Falcon's hit the street.



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akuma587 on 10 August 2007

That sucks, for everyone.  At least it has a new heat sync, but I have still heard of more than a few problems with the Elite internals.



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mitsuhide on 10 August 2007

MS is getting lazyer by the second.



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Legend11 on 10 August 2007
akuma587 said:
That sucks, for everyone.  At least it has a new heat sync, but I have still heard of more than a few problems with the Elite internals.

The original Elites that came out didn't have the new cooling system, later ones do.  That's likely why some people are having problems.



endimion on 10 August 2007

hum one of the fella commenting the news has a good point

"I have a theory: I'm willing to bet they over manufactured their Elite Mobos. I'm also willing to bet that the 65nm chips are still right around the corner. Therefore, the premiums are now getting the HDMI port to reduce the stock of the overmanufactured elite mobos in preparation for moving the entire line over to the falcon mobo."

it could make sens... they want to clear the zephyr config to move on the falson on all system... that would really be the most cost efficient way of dealling with the PB



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sieanr on 10 August 2007

Falcon is coming to all versions of the 360 asap



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jiffypop on 12 August 2007
mitsuhide said:
MS is getting lazyer by the second.

Using M$ instead of MS would have scored you more hate points.  Anyway, the zephyr thing makes sense.  One would think that MS would want to get the falcons on the market ASAP to stop the RROD problem along with the bad media attention.  



Takashii360 on 12 August 2007
jiffypop said:
mitsuhide said:
MS is getting lazyer by the second.

Using M$ instead of MS would have scored you more hate points.  Anyway, the zephyr thing makes sense.  One would think that MS would want to get the falcons on the market ASAP to stop the RROD problem along with the bad media attention.  


Agreed....it would make since...but Microsoft has made so many SKU's its not even a joke anymore....




 
sharky on 12 August 2007

This doesn't really mean the chips aren't 65nm though.

65nm chips could be used in "Zephyr" motherboards as far as I know.

The only way to truly tell if you have 65nm chips right now (if they are even out, which is also unknown) is to crack open the case, pull off the heatsinks, and look at them.

People are just assuming that once they go 65nm they will put "Falcon" in the serial#.

It's a decent assumption, but it's not confirmed or anything. Just one of the possibilities.

MRCUR at Xbox.com that a lot of people are using for a source says lot 0728 and up have 65nm. He didn't say anything about Zephyr vs Falcon at all.

But that doesn't mean lot 0728 might not have Falcon in the serial.

And even then, I think the CPU will go 65nm first and the GPU will wait a bit longer. So there likely will be system with a 65nm CPU and a 90nm GPU. Will those be code named Falcon since they're not fully 65nm?

So much rumors and little hard facts...



sharky on 12 August 2007
endimion said:
hum one of the fella commenting the news has a good point

"I have a theory: I'm willing to bet they over manufactured their Elite Mobos. I'm also willing to bet that the 65nm chips are still right around the corner. Therefore, the premiums are now getting the HDMI port to reduce the stock of the overmanufactured elite mobos in preparation for moving the entire line over to the falcon mobo."

it could make sens... they want to clear the zephyr config to move on the falson on all system... that would really be the most cost efficient way of dealling with the PB

 Ummm, one flaw is that until recently, Elite's were sold out everywhere. And they're still kind of supply limited. For example, you cant do store pickup on Elites at BestBuy and Circuit City.com. And Gamestop still only sells an Elite bundle on their website I believe (the normal practice with hard to get consoles).

 

So that doesn't make any sense. There was no "overstock" of Elite motherboards.. 

 

It's likely MS will eventually switch to 100% HDMI motherboards anyway, whether they're called Zephyr or something else. It's actually more expensive to produce different motherboard models, it's cheaper to just have one. The sooner MS gets all their products onto HDMI the happier they'll be. That is the transition that is likely happening rigtht now.