In North America in 2007 the PSP has accounted for 26% of portable hardware sales (60% for the DS, 14% for GBA) and 29% of portable software sales (69% for the DS and 2% for the GBA) ... In Japan the situation is far worse because the PSP is sitting at 20% Hardware, 12% of software sales and the GBA is essentially dead (leaving 80% of hardware and 88% of software on the DS)

They hype has died down because people have realized that it won't (magically) catch up with the DS, the upcomming games are mostly just sequels to games that have already been released, and third party support is slowly drying up in favour of the DS due to lower development costs and higher sales.

leo-j said: The psp is nowhere near dead, things can change VERY fast, I think the main reason why it didint selll well atleast in the U.S was the lack of colors, only black..girls dont like black they like pink, and not much of any AAA games that cant be played on the ps2, I think that when we see God of war, and FF7 CC on the psp, I expect things to turn quikly not out selling the ds,maybe outselling the ds, I will change my predictions and add psp/ ds numbers.

<sarcasm>Yeah, lack of colors...I'm sure that's why girls don't buy it.</sarcasm>

BenKenobi88 said: The kind of people that play a DS and the kind of people that play a PSP may very well be different...but they're both competing for the handheld spot, there's not much of a question there. I don't seem to recall the PSP ever being the s*** of all gadgets and gamers either...Not to flame, but people seem to make the argument that the losing console or handheld is simply not in competition with the winning one. It is. The PSP is a successful handheld, but it doesn't do as well as the DS, because it's made and advertised for existing gamers, not really reaching out to new users.

 

Well actually the PSP was the s*** back in 05 , when it launchd in the US and EU . At that point it did actually sell as well or even batter in some regions than the DS ( back when the DS had a pretty bad game lineup )

I know what you mean , and its true , the PSP is the rival of the DS , the PS3 is the rival of the Wii , but what Ive meant , that they dont really have the same audience/gamers , and by this they dont have the same market .

But I agree , as handhelds , they are rivals :) 

The thing that bugs me with the PSP is the games attach ratio. It is some kind of anti-Xbox360, the owners buy only 1 or 2 games. No one can deny that PSP has a lot of potential (it is almost a PS2), still most of its game are not very original. Right now, the only game I am really interested is the Castlevania remake.

Soriku said: leo-j said: The psp is nowhere near dead, things can change VERY fast, I think the main reason why it didint selll well atleast in the U.S was the lack of colors, only black..girls dont like black they like pink, and not much of any AAA games that cant be played on the ps2, I think that when we see God of war, and FF7 CC on the psp, I expect things to turn quikly not out selling the ds,maybe outselling the ds, I will change my predictions and add psp/ ds numbers. Yup, 2 games will sell 25 mil PSPs.

And the DS won't be getting any big selling games.

ItsaMii said: The thing that bugs me with the PSP is the games attach ratio. It is some kind of anti-Xbox360, the owners buy only 1 or 2 games. No one can deny that PSP has a lot of potential (it is almost a PS2), still most of its game are not very original. Right now, the only game I am really interested is the Castlevania remake.

 

Well last time I heard the attach ratio was over 5 / PSP . Still I agree , that it could be much batter . Also developing for it isnt a cheap thing to do , and the sales arent that stellar unfortunatly . At this point , by reserching on VGC and reading press-releases there are 13-15 games that had soled over a million ( VGC only says 9 , they do not mention games like nfs : mw , Wipeout , Tekken DR , MPO ) . On the other hand , the DS is close to have 40 million+ sales games , but in the same time over 20 are Nintendo 1st party . The PSP million sellers are only 3 Sony 1st party , so that could motivate a bit 3rd party developers to create games for it :)

The respectable hardware figures are misleading as the most important sales numbers are those of software which are pitiful at best. Simply put almost insignificant software sales = minimal developer support = failed game system (in a commercial sense at least). No number of hardware revisions can save a system which is infested to the core with piracy.

Sony may not lose much/any money on PSP but they certainly won't make any meaningful profit, it's been a pretty fruitless venture imo.

The PSP is not dead.

That said, the PSP has outsold the DS exactly twice in its lifetime. I'm not sure what kind of deluded fantasies you're having, Hunter, but... the PSP was never "winning the war".

The DS is not a "semi-competitor", it is a full-fledged competitor. The two have traded blows, and the DS came out on top, with the PSP putting up an impressive fight.

WiteoutKing said: The PSP is not dead. That said, the PSP has outsold the DS exactly twice in its lifetime. I'm not sure what kind of deluded fantasies you're having, Hunter, but... the PSP was never "winning the war". The DS is not a "semi-competitor", it is a full-fledged competitor. The two have traded blows, and the DS came out on top, with the PSP putting up an impressive fight.

 

I never mentioned that the PSP was winning the war Where did you come up with that one . And yes , I do stand along my statement that the Ds is just a semi-competitor , and I wont say why for the third time . If Sony would play his cards just a bit batter they could get much more out of the handheldmarket , but at this point there arent doing all that they could :(

If the PSP hype is dead becuase there are no great gaming coing to it, yet the DS has plenty from both Nintendo and 3rd parties.

Sadly, the system was hyped on Sony's brand name (which isn't as strong today as it was about a year or two ago). In truth, that's not what the handheld market wanted. Nintendo capatilized on what made the GB line work before it. Battery life, durable, and had good software. Sony forcused on multimedia, which didn't help what normally psuhes handheld. In their defence though, it did allow the PSP to get somewhere and have 33% of the world handheld market; an accomplishment that deserves praise.