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nordlead said:
Comrade Tovya said:
perpride said:
nordlead said:
woopah said:
masterb8tr said:
i dont even know how people can watch dvd's after seeing a good blu ray movie.

 i dont even know why people spend money on blu ray movies. im probably biased seeing as im not really a technological person but i dont see the attraction. ive watched blu ray and yes when your first see it your thinking 'thats amazing' but after 10 minutes the wow factor is gone and i stop  being impressed

well, just buy a big enough TV, and it becomes quite obvious. Most people don't have a TV over 32", so there really is no benefit to Blu-Ray, however, if you have a big TV, then Blu-Ray is a must.

Or, if you are blind, then it doesn't make a difference.

Let's just say, I don't watch anything but HD content except for movies I can't get on Blu-Ray yet, and I couldn't imagine going back.

 

Wrong. Even on a 32" screen the difference between DVD and Blu Ray are extremely easy to see. Blu Ray is honestly on a different level.

It's great to see the sales doing so great. I knew Blu Ray was doing good, but I didn't think it was outselling DVD hardware in some places.

 

 

No actually, you are wrong.

The difference on a sub-32" is VERY small to the average consumer.  I can tell the difference, but I'm in minority as a videophile.

The average consumer on the other hand really can't see that big of a difference at that viewing level.

32" is about the minimum size you can go to get a decent benefit from 720P. any smaller than that, and a good upscaling DVD will look about as good. Some people may be able to notice a difference, but on average people wouldn't know the difference.

either that, or you need to be sitting extremely close (1ft), which most people will sit at minimum 4ft (which would be very cramped) away from their TV.

 

 

Definitely, I am in agreement with you...

 



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Kyros said:
The average consumer on the other hand really can't see that big of a difference at that viewing level.


Which is a weird statement, since the size of the screen has not much to do with the question if you can see a difference between BluRay or DVD.

Screensize / distance or viewing angle is the only relevant factor here. In other words the smaller your screen, the nearer you have to sit to it to see the difference. In many cases people cannot change the living room but if you can sit directly before it you can get cinematic feeling with a 32" TV, and up close EVERYBODY can see the difference although people will notice it less in some movies and more in others (Nature, animations, ... ) Besides 720p has advantages even at modest viewing angles. 1080p may be a bit overkill unless you have a huge television or sit very near to it. (there was a chart once)

Is it worth it? Depends on the price of the discs and the movie type. I would kill for a Lord of the Rings BluRay edition. But I wouldn't pay 30E for anything else.

 

When HD DVD and Blu-ray first came out, I bought the discs like crazy for both formats.  Since that time though, I have slowed down quite a bit, and generally only buy the movies on BD that are visually amazing to begin with... (i.e., I Am Legend, Underworld, Narnia, etc.)

If the visuals on a movie are lackluster to begin with, or simply not the high point of the movie, I have been settling for SD...



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Any figures that include Playstation 3 consoles braggin about Blu-ray hardware sales consoles are a joke. When DISC sales are worth something (if Dark Knight old only 21% of what DVD did, think of the horrid percentage difference for the average movie, esp catalog titles) and dedicated hardware comes up (which Sony has screwed up the sales model for since Day 1 with its console) then make these dumb back-patting threads. Until then you're preaching to the choir, not the people who matter.



GhaleonUnlimited said:
Any figures that include Playstation 3 consoles braggin about Blu-ray hardware sales consoles are a joke. When DISC sales are worth something (if Dark Knight old only 21% of what DVD did, think of the horrid percentage difference for the average movie, esp catalog titles) and dedicated hardware comes up (which Sony has screwed up the sales model for since Day 1 with its console) then make these dumb back-patting threads. Until then you're preaching to the choir, not the people who matter.

20% of disc sales is pretty dang impressive for a format that has been affordable for for maybe 1 year vs. a format that has been affordable for 8-10 years. I bet over the long run that % will drop (as average DVD buyers are more like Nintendo casual buyers) but still, not bad for a launch.




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hmm you dont need a big tv to see the difference. Sd tv's and upscaled dvd's looks like crap on compared to blu ray on my 32"tv. On my dads 46" the difference is even bigger.



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I am fully converted aready,i only buy blu-ray movies now.DVD's are all fine and great.But it feels outdated to me.



 

 

Blu-rays are all I watch anymore.  I can't even stand upscaled dvd's anymore.  I have over 200 blu-rays in my collection and usually get in a a few new ones from Amazon each week...



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I don't buy standard DVDs anymore. Just the scratch resistant coating is a big win for me as the kids tend to leave them laying around.



I should probably get around to actually buying some bluray films....they sound quite good



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I plan to get the Dark Knight this xmas and possibly the Matrix Collection if I can afford it. Also that HD cable too :P