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Sony should have learned from PS2 and Xbox 360. Make it faulty and more people will buy it.



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ROFLOL...you're in such a high level of denial...it's TOO funny.



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DTG said:
I'll agree that if you have kids, you'll find yourself with considerably less disposable income. Most parents however buy their kids bunch of useless toys, games, etc all the time at the expense of their own entertainment. If you postponed that furby and barbie house for a couple of months and bought a few crayons and a stack of paper in the meantime you'd already be much closer to buying a ps3. I mean you're only buying 1-3 consoles every 5 years, I'm not telling you to quit buying presents for your children. However better planning would afford you to save 399 on a ps3 by the same logic that you can spend 500+ a year on your childs (non educational) junk.

Also, people don't always go for the cheapest electronics. Look at the ipod. It's probably one the most if not the most expense mp3 player on the market...and the best selling one. Same with the iphone. Price isn't the sole determinant of uptake.

Even if you're making minimum wage and picking up checks from the government you should be making over 15 grand a year. Save up 30 bucks a month (8 dollars a week) and you have your ps3 in one years time. Which would be by last Christmas, instead of complaining in late 2008. Heck, even a young, unemployed teen gets more than 8 dollars a week in allowance,

 

 So taxpayers should pick up the tab so that Sony can boost their numbers?



dougsdad0629 said:
DirtyP2002 said:

Okay, I know it is pointless, because even if everybody said that they don't know anyone who did this you would still believe the other way, because you just like it, but I will try to bring up one arguement that just proofes you wrong.

So let's say a significant number of sales are redundant. Let's say 20%, because it is easy to calculate with. That would be 20million unique Xbox360-users. The Xbox360 is still a software-selling-machine. Imagine the "real" attach ratio. The ratio right now is 8.1! So with a smaller userbase but the same amount of software sold, the attach ratio would increase even higher. That would be close to 10.0. So every Xbox360 users would have bought 10 games, which is definately not the case. There you can see, there can't be a significant number of redundant Xbox360 sales.

Same for Xbox Live. There are more than 14 million UNIQUE Users on live (probably 15 million after Xmas when the kids have the console under the Xmas-tree and actually start using it.). That would be like 5 million Xbox360s without Xbox Live. 75% of the consoles would be on Xbox Live. That is just not the case.

There you go, the number of people owning multiple Xbox360s is not that big, probably as big as the multiple PS3 users (One for gaming, one for BluRay).

 

 

Aside from your first paragraph (and its tone), another good post.  I'm looking for the truth and I'm looking for people to agree that people who spend money to replace something that can be done for free are idiots.

I would never ever replace my xbox by buying a new one when its free.  Thats just stupid.

 



oh my god ,thits post is real ,?

 

To say bilges as these, on behalf of fanatics of sony, nintendo or Microsoft does not contribute in anything.

 

Serious so idiot ,as like saying that the people buy ''wii'' because it is a toy.

Or that the people buy ps3 only for the blu ray movies.


 is funny and pathetic...

 



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People who are just posting no content posts like green_box, do you remember the amount of RROD and people saying they are on their 2nd, 3rd, or even 5th+ xbox (I remember someone posting they got RROD so many times).

People are actually stupid, if you didn't know, I could walk outside and hit a stupid person blindfolded with a rock. I have no doubt many people brought another xbox if their xbox messed up on them. I think 1mil units is a meaning full amount of redundant purchases, I think it is less then that so I don't think it is a big deal. I do think thousands were redundant though.

I don't think this can be used in a sales debate but shouldn't be dismissed in a whim either, just by the amount of posts in this forum alone about RROD- think about the other millions of xbox users.



Endz said:
People who are just posting no content posts like green_box, do you remember the amount of RROD and people saying they are on their 2nd, 3rd, or even 5th+ xbox (I remember someone posting they got RROD so many times).

People are actually stupid, if you didn't know, I could walk outside and hit a stupid person blindfolded with a rock. I have no doubt many people brought another xbox if their xbox messed up on them. I think 1mil units is a meaning full amount of redundant purchases, I think it is less then that so I don't think it is a big deal. I do think thousands were redundant though.

I don't think this can be used in a sales debate but shouldn't be dismissed in a whim either, just by the amount of posts in this forum alone about RROD- think about the other millions of xbox users.

On the other hand, how many of those redundant purchases returned to the used market, making the redundancy pointless. If the console ends up in another unique owner's hands, it's not an issue.

 




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@OP - I bought a 2nd PS3 while I was waiting for my yellow light of death PS3 to be fixed by Sony. It wasn't a big deal at the time and now functions as a game machine/blu-ray player for my bedroom. :)

Some people are just impatient.



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to the main point:
No: Every console has stories like this, in my area the PS3 had a high defect ratio at launch, some people bough another one to tide over until the warranty was good, then either sold the other one off on eBay or kept it as a "Back up" and in one case, yes they threw it out.

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