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Mummelmann said:
sega4life said:
Mummelmann said:
Sony are Samsung's biggest competitor in TV and cellphone markets so of course they'll say shit like this. Sony also slanders about Samsung in turn and the cycle goes on forever. Nothing new here.


If Blu-ray is a HDTV pusher, why would Samsung (makers of HDTV's) say it won't last..

I mean you would want something that shows how well your TV looks, not trash talk it unless you know something is around the corner, and it's been talked that other formats are on the horizon.

 

technology is constantly improving:

20 years - VHS

10 years - DvD

5   years - BR

To think nothing better will be out is naive.

 

 

First off; Blu-Ray is a Sony product and it makes sense for Samsung to talk a little trash on competition, as in all other markets. And; there is nothing right now that goes beyond Blu-Ray as far as audio and visual quality goes, which kinda makes it look like there's going to be quite some time before something better, quality-wise, shows up. Downloads? It takes a helluva lot of space to store HD content, let alone anything that would be above, not to mention the fact that no HDTV ever made could process the image. Anything better than an HDTV is quite a few years off yet, and most likely the next generation of Tv sets will be made off of Sony's pioneer OLED technology, if anything, which isn't exactly good news for Samsung when you think about it.

Nothing is around the corner, HD signals are massively expensive to broadcast and as a consequence; buy. New TV sets supporting above full HD (1080p) will be many, many years ahead and will hardly be available to commoners in the first turn at any rate. Talk of new formats? I've heard of no such thing, I have heard of advanced imaging panels that can in theory outperform HD resolution but such panels are barely above the experimental stage and as of yet there is not definitive new format "around the corner" that will take over. We're back to downloads and/or streaming, which again will rely heavily upon better compression, super fast internet connections and not to mention screens and equipment built to handle it. You can't download a 25 GB or 50 GB (or 100 for that matter) movie into your TV, nor is it very practical storing such massive files on todays harddrives or flash technology, if one movie takes up maybe 1/5 of your harddrive it starts to lose all meaning downloading it in the first place rather than rent/buy on optical format, not to mention how much space would be required to store something even more storage demanding than HD files.

Of course technology moves forward, but it has to move in synch, there's no point in developing a new format now, no one would afford, want or be able to use it for years. Of course something better will be out, but if you truly believe that HD will be obsolete within 2-3 years (which will be around the 5 year anniversary of the Blu-Ray format) then I have to say that you are the naive one.

HD signals will not replace SD as standard for quite a few years yet, HDTV penetration rate ww is still quite low and even most LCD PC monitors don't support resolutions higher than 1080p (mine is 1600x1200 for instance). HD will move slowly into media as standard, much like digitalized signals did/are, most radio and TV signals ww are still analogue, which speaks volumes of the slow speed in which these things happen. Its not just "BANG" and the whole world upgrade, it doesn't work that way. As a TV format, HD will live a long and prosperous life, while downloads will make up the majority of games and music and perhaps even reading material in the quite near future (don't give me the "but you can hook up your PC to the TV, silly" argument either, that kind of defeats the purpose of the TV and it still won't output better quality visuals than it was initially built for).

 

Edit; Millenium: you actually think technology will revert? That is ludicrous. And don't tell me there was no price difference in discs and players when DVD started taking over, DVD discs are still horribly expensive considering their age and both players and discs were atrociously priced when they came out so the leaps in consumer costs were equal to if not greater than the consumer cost of making the HD era come true (except TV's of course). I bet you also believe that they will stop sending digitalized TV signals too then? And go back to cassette's or LP's? It makes just as much sense.


great reply if this was the mid 90's

I will explain when I get off work tomorrow... to much for me to type now.

 

(but i will say) The switch from analog to Digital is more then just for the people and better quality, it has to deal with Corporate sales, Patent's, and Greed.

Starters: Make everyone go out an by a box "we will even help with rebates" but the people with portable TV's for emergency situations like hurricanes, earthquakes... you are S.O.L...

 

to be continued.

 



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I'd like to add that people with TV sets are by far more than people with VCR's, DVD's and HD's besides people that watches self recorded or bought recorded contents, there is a large majority that watches programs just when they are broadcast, so it's correct to expect increased HDTV's sales drive BD sales up and not vice versa, or at least in a smaller measure.



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I think this is old news and as well i think this is just a way to advertise their oled TV's or watev



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Physical media will all die. Maybe not in 5 years but I think that both DVD and Blu-Ray will see the same kind of decline the CD is having now.



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Godot said:
Physical media will all die. Maybe not in 5 years but I think that both DVD and Blu-Ray will see the same kind of decline the CD is having now.

 

 

Uhh dude CD sales are going down becuase people arent buying movies as much digital is actually ruining sales of the physical media but not actually replacing it. I saw an article in rolling stone showing a graph with cd sales declining but online sales not going up

 



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My prediction: NATAL WILL NOT help 360 sales. Maybe a 50-100k boost week 1, then a 30-70 k boost week 2, and back to the norm again after 3-5 weeks.

I'm suprised nobody has brought this up sooner:

Given the exponential jump in solid state storage recently (as well as Samsung being one of the big manufacturers of solid state storage, if not THE biggest), they probably have a solid-state solution in the works. SDHC only took off a couple of years ago, breaking through SD's 2GB limit to set the bar up to 2TB. Since then we are seeing insane prices for flash memory storage.

This is why I believe solid-state will (eventually) get a foothold in the movie industry:

- With circuit miniaturization constantly improving, we are getting to a stage where manufacturers can decide to add more storage to the device, or cut costs by using less raw materials. If HDTV becomes the standard for the next decade or so, solid-state will quickly reach the 'desired' size to fit a movie on (around the 64GB mark. Not far off already) and start to become cheaper. With optical, you cannot physically reduce raw material usage per disc.

- If a mass market solid-state movie media type does become a reality, the players could be insanely cheap to produce compared to their moving-state rivals, and theoretically have a lot lower fail rate.

- As sad as it may be, solid-state media would be a lot easier to implement a hardware-based copy protection device into the media, which would gain immediate interest from the major manufacturers from the start.