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dbot said:
Why are you posting an article that was published 7 months ago? The Dark Knight just sold 2 million Blu-ray disks. Why don't we talk about that? We could also discuss how Blu-ray players are the in the top 5 of most sought after devices this Christmas. Samsung has an interest in Blu-ray's success, but they wouldn't mind seeing it fail either. Blu-ray is essentially owned by Sony.

I doubt Blu-Ray players are in the top 5 most sought devices this Christmas, considering DVD players outsold them 3-to-1 on Black Friday. What's the source for that?

 



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NJ5 said:
dbot said:
Why are you posting an article that was published 7 months ago? The Dark Knight just sold 2 million Blu-ray disks. Why don't we talk about that? We could also discuss how Blu-ray players are the in the top 5 of most sought after devices this Christmas. Samsung has an interest in Blu-ray's success, but they wouldn't mind seeing it fail either. Blu-ray is essentially owned by Sony.

I doubt Blu-Ray players are in the top 5 most sought devices this Christmas, considering DVD players outsold them 3-to-1 on Black Friday. What's the source for that?

 

 

Here is the link that the Blu-ray player is the #1 device for HDTV users.  http://gear.ign.com/articles/938/938098p1.html

 



Thanks for the input, Jeff.

 

 

I agree with Samsung on this. Blu-ray will most likely not see the same kind of life span as DVD. The reasoning behind this is that there were far greater differences/advantages with DVD compared to VHS, than there is between DVD and Blu-ray. In other words it will take much longer for Blu-ray to capture the market, than it took DVD.

I believe we will see downloadable content take over the market within a few years - perhaps even before Blu-ray has replaced DVD as market leader. It's inevtiable.



Hamister said:
I agree with Samsung on this. Blu-ray will most likely not see the same kind of life span as DVD. The reasoning behind this is that there were far greater differences/advantages with DVD compared to VHS, than there is between DVD and Blu-ray. In other words it will take much longer for Blu-ray to capture the market, than it took DVD.

I believe we will see downloadable content take over the market within a few years - perhaps even before Blu-ray has replaced DVD as market leader. It's inevtiable.

No its not. Are you telling me you would like to sit and download a monster like MGS4? Right now that would take forever.

Before downloading takes over discs speeds will have to greatly increase, and even then I feel there will still be a demand for physical collections (people will still rather have a physical collection of eg: movies than a collection stored on a HDD)

 



dbot said:
NJ5 said:
dbot said:
Why are you posting an article that was published 7 months ago? The Dark Knight just sold 2 million Blu-ray disks. Why don't we talk about that? We could also discuss how Blu-ray players are the in the top 5 of most sought after devices this Christmas. Samsung has an interest in Blu-ray's success, but they wouldn't mind seeing it fail either. Blu-ray is essentially owned by Sony.

I doubt Blu-Ray players are in the top 5 most sought devices this Christmas, considering DVD players outsold them 3-to-1 on Black Friday. What's the source for that?

 

 

Here is the link that the Blu-ray player is the #1 device for HDTV users.  http://gear.ign.com/articles/938/938098p1.html

 

Those holiday wish lists articles have been misleading in the past. I'd rather wait for sales figures. 25% of USA households have a HDTV, that would point to insane sales figures which don't seem to be happening.

 



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Hamister said:
I agree with Samsung on this. Blu-ray will most likely not see the same kind of life span as DVD. The reasoning behind this is that there were far greater differences/advantages with DVD compared to VHS, than there is between DVD and Blu-ray. In other words it will take much longer for Blu-ray to capture the market, than it took DVD.

I believe we will see downloadable content take over the market within a few years - perhaps even before Blu-ray has replaced DVD as market leader. It's inevtiable.

 

  • All Blu-ray players will play all DVDs and the playback will be upscaled to 720p.
  • The migration from VHS to DVD was slowed because people had to discard their VHS libraries in favor of DVDs or they had to retain their VCRs for VHS playback. 
  • The resolution improvement from VHS (240x480) to DVD (720x480) is much less than the improvement from DVD (720x480) to Blu-ray (1920x1080).


Thanks for the input, Jeff.

 

 

NJ5 said:
dbot said:
NJ5 said:
dbot said:
Why are you posting an article that was published 7 months ago? The Dark Knight just sold 2 million Blu-ray disks. Why don't we talk about that? We could also discuss how Blu-ray players are the in the top 5 of most sought after devices this Christmas. Samsung has an interest in Blu-ray's success, but they wouldn't mind seeing it fail either. Blu-ray is essentially owned by Sony.

I doubt Blu-Ray players are in the top 5 most sought devices this Christmas, considering DVD players outsold them 3-to-1 on Black Friday. What's the source for that?

 

 

Here is the link that the Blu-ray player is the #1 device for HDTV users. http://gear.ign.com/articles/938/938098p1.html

 

Those holiday wish lists articles have been misleading in the past. I'd rather wait for sales figures. 25% of USA households have a HDTV, that would point to insane sales figures which don't seem to be happening.

 

 

Granted, but they are probably a lot more accurate than an article posted on the Internet 7 months ago which is my main problem with this thread.



Thanks for the input, Jeff.

 

 

dbot said:
Hamister said:
I agree with Samsung on this. Blu-ray will most likely not see the same kind of life span as DVD. The reasoning behind this is that there were far greater differences/advantages with DVD compared to VHS, than there is between DVD and Blu-ray. In other words it will take much longer for Blu-ray to capture the market, than it took DVD.

I believe we will see downloadable content take over the market within a few years - perhaps even before Blu-ray has replaced DVD as market leader. It's inevtiable.

 

  • All Blu-ray players will play all DVDs and the playback will be upscaled to 720p.
  • The migration from VHS to DVD was slowed because people had to discard their VHS libraries in favor of DVDs or they had to retain their VCRs for VHS playback. 
  • The resolution improvement from VHS (240x480) to DVD (720x480) is much less than the improvement from DVD (720x480) to Blu-ray (1920x1080).

 

Compared to VHS

DVDs didn't need to be rewound

DVDs were smaller and lighter

DVD's were less prone to losing quality over time (digital not analogue)

DVD's could have 'special features', and these could be navigated through

DVD's could be paused without damaging them

DVD's could have bookmarks placed in them, both by the studio and the consumer

DVD's make excellent coasters

 

Blu Ray > DVD >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Betamax>VHS



Uncle Fister said:
scottie said:
DVD released 1996
Blu Ray released 2006
Next Drive released 2013/2014

Doesn't seem like a bad assumption

 

 Not relevent.

VHS was released 20 years before DVD...Whats your point?

How long a format lasts is determined by uptake and profitability of the format, not how long ago it was released...

Your logic is way too simplistic.

That would be why DVD will likely still be outselling Blu-Ray in 5 years time.

 



TWRoO said:
Uncle Fister said:
scottie said:
DVD released 1996
Blu Ray released 2006
Next Drive released 2013/2014

Doesn't seem like a bad assumption

 

 Not relevent.

VHS was released 20 years before DVD...Whats your point?

How long a format lasts is determined by uptake and profitability of the format, not how long ago it was released...

Your logic is way too simplistic.

That would be why DVD will likely still be outselling Blu-Ray in 5 years time.

 

I can see Blu-Ray outselling DVD if/when it gets near DVD prices. Blu-Ray quality is not a big deal (or even terribly noticeable vs upscaled DVD) for most people, so price is king.

 



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