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Remember all the claims about the "Emotion Engine" and how great that would be in it's future?, what did we get, Pop up, Grainy dotty racetracks and fog to try and hide the redraw. That is why I don't believe a word of any of those claims about the Cell.

The Xbox 1 comes along and shows how games should run and without the need to make ridiculous claims about it's processor or calling it some stupid name either. Now isn't this all starting to sound far to familiar to the latest consoles.



JerryEastwood said:
Remember all the claims about the "Emotion Engine" and how great that would be in it's future?, what did we get, Pop up, Grainy dotty racetracks and fog to try and hide the redraw. That is why I don't believe a word of any of those claims about the Cell.

The Xbox 1 comes along and shows how games should run and without the need to make ridiculous claims about it's processor or calling it some stupid name either. Now isn't this all starting to sound far to familiar to the latest consoles.

 

I don't think there is anything wrong with the cell per se, but it definitely hasn't performed as advertised thus far.   And I keep hearing that it's because, "developers haven't learned how to unleash its power yet".  And two years later, we are still waiting...

It's either a bogus claim, or it really is just too complicated for developers to take advantage of.



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People believe the 10 year plan because Sony has done it in previous generations. Just because Sony has a 10 year plan doesn't mean the Wii and 360 can't last 10 years. I do think that Sony will release some substantial revisions to the hardware of the PS3 during its lifecycle, but 10 years is still their stated direction.



Thanks for the input, Jeff.

 

 

Max King of the Wild said:
why do you deny the ten year plan so much? PSP will most likely make it and it aint market leader.

 

 lol

The PSP will be dead in 2 years.



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So if the PS3 follows it's "10 year plan" then it looks like the 360 will be selling for 11 years then! MS said they would stop making the 360 one day after Sony stops making the PS3, right? ;-p




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The tech expansion from a dev's perspective and what is possible. That is the typ.



I agree with the comment that the PS3 still hasnt been anywhere near fully utilised...bigger and better games will come



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colonelstubbs said:
I agree with the comment that the PS3 still hasnt been anywhere near fully utilised...bigger and better games will come

 

Yeah, but when?  I've been hearing that for a long time (which is one of the reasons I got a PS3 to sit along side my XBOX 360)... At the rate it's going it will be 2012 before someone actually shows that the Sony cell is superior as claimed.  Like I said, either the claim is bogus, or it's just too difficult to utilize or just not worth the extra trouble.

I actually would like to see the claim become true because otherwise, except for the Blu-ray capabilities, why did I drop $500.00 on my PS3?



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Zones said:
The real answer is, because PS3 is way over it's time, the system is more future proof than the other ones. Now, just because it didn't sell as much as PS2 doesn't mean the system can't be out for as long if Sony supports the system.

Another thing that you should know, is that PS3 is in it's infancy as of now, outside few first party studios games, no company took advantages of the system, we really don't know what it's capable of until now. But I am sure whatever you saw on 2005 E3 press conference is completely possible on PS3, so two years form now, the system, might be something you have never thought of.

 

You see, that's what I keep hearing, but in tests of the two systems, I think it's been shown that the PS3 is no more advanced than the 360, and if it is, it isn't by very much.  So I think the whole notion that the PS3 is "future proof" is just Sony PR digging real hard to look for a win somewhere.

The games that I have that are on both consoles look exactly the same, and the gameplay is exactly the same on both consoles.  The only difference to me is the controllers are different, and hence I choose to play each game depending upon which controller (sixaxis or 360) works better for that game.

I think that either the 360 or PS3 can last as long as MS & Sony want to make it last, but the technology in each console is virtually equivalent.  I used to be of the camp that said the PS3 was more advanced, but there have just been too many tests out there that show that that is just not the case... if anything, the PS3 has a more stable hardware platform.

I agree with most of the points you have made. I, too, was one of the people who thought PS3 is way more powerful than Xbox 360, but now, if you ask me, I'll tell you that till this day, every PS3 game is possible on Xbox 360, I think even Killzone 2/MGS4 is completely possible on Xbox 360, without any lose of quality.

But the fact of the matter is, I believe Sony's software developer are more capable to optimize their platform than Microsoft to their platform. So far, Sony is the highest quality develeper of this gen, and also, remember that 90 percent of other devs games are using Unreal Engine III, while SCE Studios need to create all these engines from ground up to the most complex platform. Now, that aside, I think from what we have seen so far, PS3's power is vague, but like I said, it's up to game developers to take advantage of the platform. and Sony has this covered.

Whatever, when I said it's way over it's time, I didn't mean just for games, if you look at the platform, it was built specifically to be future proof, like how each PS3 contains a hard drive, Blu-ray disc, and even stuff like Life With PlayStation helps for that matter. And as for multplatform games, well, they should look the same, regardless of the power or any other thing, becasue it's not the best thing to do this to those who only owns that other console. Though, I think stuffs like 'Making of' is good to be on the PS3 version due to Blu-ray.

One other thing that I'd like to point out is how different games were on the first few years of PS2 compared to 6 or 7 years after it's launch. The first few years, almost every game released was on CD, that includes ICO, Tsugunai, GT3...etc, but 7 years later, the role totally reversed. And compare the games of that to time to the later ones and you see how Sony delivered, I mean, God of War II definitely looks better than any other game on any other console last gen, so I don't know why people like JerryEastwood thinks it's hard to believe Sony since PS2, even though it was inferior, still had better looking games than it's competitor. So, again, what I am saying is, imagine 5 years from now, PS3 might be a system no one even thought of, and if that happens, then the 10 year life cycle will become reality.