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ookaze said:
It's funny because taking the contrary of everything in this article gives pretty much what I believe since launch.
The Wii is just superior to both PS3 and XB360 in every single way. The only thing where the competitors could have been better is graphics, but it requires lots of things (HDTV surge, interest in HD surge, expensive furnitures, ...), that make this advantage a niche, and thus a completely inexistant advantage in the end.
Even the Wii online is superior in every single way to both PS3 and XB360, but even here people are unable to see it, and are saying the exact contrary.

The Wii is just superior, but the problem is that lots of people, competitors included, are completely unable to see it, being shut in a very shallow and tiny vision of reality. People and competitors stuck in technology, and believing that consoles are a technology product, are just plain fooling themselves.

That's not because some people with sense didn't tell them. But they just won't listen and stubbornly continue in their flawed view instead of evolving. Well, too bad for them. That's also why I realised little after the launch of the Wii, that the competitors just couldn't see the danger it represented, just how it was going to fly past them without them realising.

All it takes is changing from a flawed metrics (technology) to the real one (entertainment), but it seems like very hard to do for most people.

Once you understand the Wii is vastly superior to both its competitors, the OP article doesn't make sense anymore, as everything is wrong in it.

 

whats an "expensive furniture"? you can pretty much prop any LCD TV on the same TV stand where a CRT stood.

have you heard of the wii "friend list system", the game code system, the horrible connect/lag in smash brawl?

IF ive ever heard a stupid argument to support the wii yours would be it.. the wii is fun and has good motion controls and good nintendo titles and some third part titles. full stop

It doesnt have better online, or better graphics or better gameplay for every game( tried steering with the wiimote or fighting with smash bros? the GC pad is much more superior) but its still a fun console.

 



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Here's another reason why the Wii is so popular:


We experienced gamers grew up playing 2nd and 3rd gen consoles, the arcades, pc-games (Amiga & Commodore) we're tired of all the boring predictable BS these days.
We've seen it all before in some form or another. Been there, done that, bought the T-shirt!

That's why we love the Wii.



@Arsenicazure: What Ookaze posted, was just about as stupid as the text quoted in the OP, with the difference that Ookaze actually had somekind of touch with reality (shame on you).



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arsenicazure said:
ookaze said:
It's funny because taking the contrary of everything in this article gives pretty much what I believe since launch.
The Wii is just superior to both PS3 and XB360 in every single way. The only thing where the competitors could have been better is graphics, but it requires lots of things (HDTV surge, interest in HD surge, expensive furnitures, ...), that make this advantage a niche, and thus a completely inexistant advantage in the end.
Even the Wii online is superior in every single way to both PS3 and XB360, but even here people are unable to see it, and are saying the exact contrary.

The Wii is just superior, but the problem is that lots of people, competitors included, are completely unable to see it, being shut in a very shallow and tiny vision of reality. People and competitors stuck in technology, and believing that consoles are a technology product, are just plain fooling themselves.

That's not because some people with sense didn't tell them. But they just won't listen and stubbornly continue in their flawed view instead of evolving. Well, too bad for them. That's also why I realised little after the launch of the Wii, that the competitors just couldn't see the danger it represented, just how it was going to fly past them without them realising.

All it takes is changing from a flawed metrics (technology) to the real one (entertainment), but it seems like very hard to do for most people.

Once you understand the Wii is vastly superior to both its competitors, the OP article doesn't make sense anymore, as everything is wrong in it.

 

whats an "expensive furniture"? you can pretty much prop any LCD TV on the same TV stand where a CRT stood.

have you heard of the wii "friend list system", the game code system, the horrible connect/lag in smash brawl?

IF ive ever heard a stupid argument to support the wii yours would be it.. the wii is fun and has good motion controls and good nintendo titles and some third part titles. full stop

It doesnt have better online, or better graphics or better gameplay for every game( tried steering with the wiimote or fighting with smash bros? the GC pad is much more superior) but its still a fun console.

 

I'm sorry for you that you don't realise, like lots of people, that the Wii online is superior, that the Wii gameplay is superior too. Especially gameplay makes me recall discussions I had more than 10 years ago with PC fans, on why consoles gameplay was superior to PC, making graphics irrelevant. They wouldn't listen or even try to understand, so I don't expect you to understand either.

Basic logic would lead anyone to understand that saying "the Wii is inferior" is wrong, given the facts. But most don't want to go into rationality, and prefer to stay in their pipe dream, because if they try to be logical, they'll be admitting the Wii superiority went far above their head and they were too dumb to understand it.

I have heard about "friend list system". Actually, the only time I heard of it, was negatively, and talked about by people who *gasp* don't want to use it and use it as a scapegoat, hardlycore gamers most of the time. See where the problem is?

Let me reveal it to you: the vast minority of people that blame "friend list system" just don't use it. The far higher lot of people using it never complain. People that complain shut themselves off in a world that is far distant from reality.

For example, that Wii online is far more than "friend list system", game code or SMBB lag. But the Wii online is actually so seamless that most people don't even realise it's there. That's how powerful it is: it's natural and friendly.

The Wii is amazing because it's actually useful in itself, without games.

So I'll stay with my initial opinion that the Wii is the far superior console if you only talk about online, graphics and accessibility. The only doubt I had was if Nintendo would manage to convey this to customers, who would have to feel it rather than understand it.

Also, if you don't even know that taking advantage of both Wii competitors' consoles is expensive, I can't do anything for you.

Most households don't have a big (40"+) 1080p HDTV, you know, where it will make a difference.

Most don't even have an audio/video amplifier able to even decode Dolby Digital, and the at least 6 good speakers going with them, so that you can at least make a difference between high bitrate DTS and Dolby Surround II.

Even with all this, I can clearly say the Wii is the one taking the most advantage of surround sound and graphics into just its interface.



To all the people saying we love the wii because it's different a fresh, what have you been playing on the Wii? That's right, SUper Mario Galaxy (Super Mario 64), Zelda: Twilight Princess (Zelda: Oot), mario Kart Wii (Mario Kart DS), Super Smash Bros Brawl (Super Smash Bros Melee) and ports (RE4, Okami etc).

You've been playing the same games Nintendo's been dishing out for years, the lone exception, and one of the few reasons I keep my wii, Metroid Prime 3.

Aside from that, you could list of X amount of innovative/"unique" games and I'd be able to do the same on both 360 and PS3.

My point isn't to bash Wii lovers, but don't give me this crap that you are the older gamers that have been playing the same games over and over again and the Wii is giving you fresh experiences when I guarantee that all of you have mostly Nintendo titles in your cabinet (which I mentioned before, you've played already).

What makes Nintendo Wii fun? For me, it's the fact that it is so simple, that my non-gaming family can play it, even if all we ever play is Wii sports. It's not because it's different, it's because it's simple. There are plenty of other simple games on the other two consoles, but Nintendo managed to streamline it and break it down even further.

That's why the Wii is so popular.



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I think I just got dumber from reading that.



CAL4M1TY said:
To all the people saying we love the wii because it's different a fresh, what have you been playing on the Wii? That's right, SUper Mario Galaxy (Super Mario 64), Zelda: Twilight Princess (Zelda: Oot), mario Kart Wii (Mario Kart DS), Super Smash Bros Brawl (Super Smash Bros Melee) and ports (RE4, Okami etc).

You've been playing the same games Nintendo's been dishing out for years, the lone exception, and one of the few reasons I keep my wii, Metroid Prime 3.

Aside from that, you could list of X amount of innovative/"unique" games and I'd be able to do the same on both 360 and PS3.

My point isn't to bash Wii lovers, but don't give me this crap that you are the older gamers that have been playing the same games over and over again and the Wii is giving you fresh experiences when I guarantee that all of you have mostly Nintendo titles in your cabinet (which I mentioned before, you've played already).

What makes Nintendo Wii fun? For me, it's the fact that it is so simple, that my non-gaming family can play it, even if all we ever play is Wii sports. It's not because it's different, it's because it's simple. There are plenty of other simple games on the other two consoles, but Nintendo managed to streamline it and break it down even further.

That's why the Wii is so popular.

^^ Classic example of selective argument

 

Edit:

The games you listed are not among my fav games. You're generalizing.



Umm,i'll answer my reason why i like wii.

1)I can play Nintendo games.
2)I love Wii remote + Nunchuck.
3)I love Balance Board.

About price ,when i buy Wii in Thailand which i have to order it due to no Nintendo support or legal shop here.Wii price equal to PS3 that day ,so i gotta say it won't matter about price for me. :)



NOTICE TO ALL FRUSTRATED AND UNHAPPY HD FANBOYS:

I know it upsets you a lot that the sales figures just refuse to confirm your particular view of reality. Well here's my advice:

GET OVER IT! GROW UP! MOVE ON!

YEA WE GET IT, YOUR TOY IS FAR SUPERIOR TO OUR TOY AND YOU JUST CAN'T BELIEVE THAT WE DON'T SEE THE ERROR OF OUR WAYS AND CONFIRM YOUR WISDOM AND GOOD TASTE.

THAT'S JUST THE WAY THE WORLD WORKS SOMETIMES!

SO PLEASE JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GO PLAY GTA AND WE'LL GO PLAY MARIO KARTS AND WE WON'T HAVE TO SIT THROUGH THE 10,000TH PATHETIC TANTRUM AND HISSY FIT BECAUSE WE REFUSE TO SEE THAT YOUR TOY IS BETTER THAN OUR TOY!

BIG DAMN DEAL! JUST GET A LIFE AND QUIT SUFFERING SO MUCH ANGST OVER A FRIGGING GAME -GET IT GAME! AS IN NOT THIS IMPORTANT.



Phew, I thought you wrote this and I feared for you...



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