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Forums - Sales Discussion - Looks Like The 360 "only" Sold about 350k in NA last week.

I think it sold around 450-475k.



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I checked the site a couple days ago what did I see? bigjon talking crap about 360s expected blackfriday sales. Now when they do even better than last year its still "only" hundreds of thousands of 360s. What a failure!!



Just noticed something; MS sold 310k last Black friday, and the number for others for the 360 is 310k this week. Weird; can we expect to see America-like sales this year for the 360 for others next year then? :P



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You seem pretty certain. You say 400K max.

Want a bet, having a minor sentence in your sig (I lost bet vs Oyvoyv/I lost bet vs Bigjon) for a week?

I win - 400 500 units or more

You win - 400 499 units or less



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mrstickball said:

Few notes:

1) Microsoft said that they sold 310,000 on Black Friday last year - US only
2) VGC includes numbers for Canada (7-8%) and Mexico (3-5%) along with US numbers
3) Microsoft "estimated" the 25% increase

So the question becomes:

What if the X360 actually increased more than 25% once everything was said & done?
What if the 310,000 didn't include weekly sales?

Depending on how one answers those 2 questions, you could get a number anywhere from 400,000 at the low end, to 500,000+ on the high end - well within what VGC has stated.

And for official numbers, lets use what's available, as per Microsoft's statements:

1. The X360 sold 310,000 on Black Friday in 2007...310,000

2. There was a 25% increase this year....387,500

3. There is another 12% increase for CAN and Mexico...434,000

So 434,000 would be a realilistic median for what Microsoft states that they sold during Black Friday.

 

 Why would you add in Black Friday numbers before you multiply it by 112% to fingure Canada and Mexico? Times 310 by 12% = 37k. Then you times 310 by 125% 388k then you ad the 37k 425. I also don't believe MS sold 310k in one day. That's just me though.

(also if i remember correctly MS is getting their numbers strictly from Gamespot)



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Max King of the Wild said:
mrstickball said:

Few notes:

1) Microsoft said that they sold 310,000 on Black Friday last year - US only
2) VGC includes numbers for Canada (7-8%) and Mexico (3-5%) along with US numbers
3) Microsoft "estimated" the 25% increase

So the question becomes:

What if the X360 actually increased more than 25% once everything was said & done?
What if the 310,000 didn't include weekly sales?

Depending on how one answers those 2 questions, you could get a number anywhere from 400,000 at the low end, to 500,000+ on the high end - well within what VGC has stated.

And for official numbers, lets use what's available, as per Microsoft's statements:

1. The X360 sold 310,000 on Black Friday in 2007...310,000

2. There was a 25% increase this year....387,500

3. There is another 12% increase for CAN and Mexico...434,000

So 434,000 would be a realilistic median for what Microsoft states that they sold during Black Friday.

 

 Why would you add in Black Friday numbers before you multiply it by 112% to fingure Canada and Mexico? Times 310 by 12% = 37k. Then you times 310 by 125% 388k then you ad the 37k 425. I also don't believe MS sold 310k in one day. That's just me though.

...Because we've seen similar increases outside of the United states, and they should reflect the increase as well? PAL says that the X360 increased sales by ~30% versus last week, so I'm only including said jump in other non-US territories too.

 



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mrstickball said:

Few notes:

1) Microsoft said that they sold 310,000 on Black Friday last year - US only
2) VGC includes numbers for Canada (7-8%) and Mexico (3-5%) along with US numbers
3) Microsoft "estimated" the 25% increase

So the question becomes:

What if the X360 actually increased more than 25% once everything was said & done?
What if the 310,000 didn't include weekly sales?

Depending on how one answers those 2 questions, you could get a number anywhere from 400,000 at the low end, to 500,000+ on the high end - well within what VGC has stated.

And for official numbers, lets use what's available, as per Microsoft's statements:

1. The X360 sold 310,000 on Black Friday in 2007...310,000

2. There was a 25% increase this year....387,500

3. There is another 12% increase for CAN and Mexico...434,000

So 434,000 would be a realilistic median for what Microsoft states that they sold during Black Friday.

 

 

There ya go, nice post.

@OP

You have to use consistancy. You are using the 25% increase against VGChartz numbers, not Microsofts.

If Microsoft said they sold 310,000 last year, and 25 percent more this year, on one day of the week, then 500,000 seems like a conservative estimate for the console, over the entire week.

In reality, like last year, ioi probably acually came in a little under what Microsoft would claim for the week.

Either way, whatever ioi comes up with will have a lot more evidence and justification than anything we can come up with.

 

Also, Microsoft said they beat the PS3 3-1. That ratio is very impressive, isn't it? Assuming Sony got some sort of boots from Black Friday, that would put them about about, what?

Well, if Sony gets a big boost from black friday, and Microsoft sells 3 times as many units, how exactly does it sell 400k, max? Did the PS3 not get a bump at all?



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bigjon said:
Yea, I also read stories about people killing people for their PS3's near its launch and look where that got em.

Plz- read what they wrote, compare that stats, and make your own conclusion. It like ur whole argument is backed up by some Youtube video...

Maybe MS messed up, for the sales to be where ioi says they are we would need at least a 75% increase (AT A MINIMUM). Seeing that 500k is nearly double what was last year. Also your video was taken on BF the day this article is about.

Does it really bother you that much that the 360 may have sold 800K WW for the week? Does that effect your personal life in some way? I don't see what this is all about. Why don't we wait until the numbers are finalized?

 



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There's incomplete math in your argument. Taking account that last years Black Friday week reports 381,789 units sold and we use your number of 270k units sold on Black Friday for last year, we can find the percentage of units sold outside of Black Friday. The numbers we come up with is 70.72% units sold on Black Friday and 29.28% units were sold outside of Black Friday.

We can then use the increase of 25% for this year and we come up to your number of 337,500 units sold on Black Friday. Then, we can estimate the units sold outside of Black Friday with the percentage we found for last year and that brings last weeks estimated total units sold to 436,320.

But this is all just anecdotal as is your original post. I'd say 500,000 units is possible if there were enough sales outside of Black Friday.



ZenfoldorVGI said:

Also, Microsoft said they beat the PS3 3-1. That ratio is very impressive, isn't it? Assuming Sony got some sort of boots from Black Friday, that would put them about about, what?

Well, if Sony gets a big boost from black friday, and Microsoft sells 3 times as many units, how exactly does it sell 400k, max? Did the PS3 not get a bump at all?

This is very important to take into account.

How much should the PS3 get, boost wise for Black Friday? Nothing? If the 3:1 ratio is the truth, as per Microsoft...And bigjon is right, then that means the Playstation 3 got a shoddy boost of a mere 25,000 units on the week.

So which one is it, Jon: The Playstation 3 got abysmally butchered - beyond belief - and has one of the worst Black Fridays in the history of console gaming........Or the X360 is above your argument in sales?

 



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