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your mother said:
stof said:
the AllAll in your name definately is not in reference to common courtesy or rational debate.

?

Care to explicate? 

 


 Because instead of all, he has none.



I'm a mod, come to me if there's mod'n to do. 

Chrizum is the best thing to happen to the internet, Period.

Serves me right for challenging his sales predictions!

Bet with dsisister44: Red Steel 2 will sell 1 million within it's first 365 days of sales.

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stof said:
your mother said:
stof said:
the AllAll in your name definately is not in reference to common courtesy or rational debate.

?

Care to explicate?

 


Because instead of all, he has none.


Got it - thanks.



Actually I am going to go ahead and lock this thread. Not just because of the nature of it, but because there's already a thread about this topic that ISN'T trollish.




I'm a mod, come to me if there's mod'n to do. 

Chrizum is the best thing to happen to the internet, Period.

Serves me right for challenging his sales predictions!

Bet with dsisister44: Red Steel 2 will sell 1 million within it's first 365 days of sales.

DonWii said:
MontanaHatchet said:
DonWii said:
LoL. Coming from AllAll. No point in arguing. His entire argument is based on quality=what he likes.

Basically, Wii lacks games he likes. That simple.

And what would be your response if it was dominated by Nintendo games? 


What would be my response if someone said "Wii lack quality games, not good for gamers" and listed a whole list of Wii games that got top honors and tried to convince me that that was a BAD thing?

My response would be: Dude, you are high. What are you trying to prove?


 



List illustrates the reality that the others have way better line ups. Its also alot like the last gen, 4/5 quality titles on the GC was all you got not much difference this gen on the wii. But you can always count on those 4/5 to be really great. Its just PS3 ad 360 will have alot more great titles. But wii is half the price that should be some comfort. If you wan the most great games, wii is not the console for you.



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You can't judge final quality without playing those games, ther is many games on the Wii that are promising. Having no interest in those games doesn't mean they are crap.

For exemple:

Wii

Mario Strikers
Mario Kart
Smash Bros
Mario Galaxy
Metroid Prime 3
Dewy's adventure
Wii fit
Boogie
No More Heroes
Manhunt 2
Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles
Soul Calibur Legend
Battalion Wars 2
My sims
Dragon Blade
Zack and Wicki
Fire Emblem
Dragon Ball z Tenkaichi 3
Rayman 2
Nights
Mario and Sonic
Trauma Center

That's all the game on the Wii that I'm interested.

PS3

Uncharted
Lair
Heavenly Sword
MGS 4
FF XIII
Folklore

360

Assassin's Creed
Mass Effect
Quake Wars
Fable 2
Too Human
Bioshock
Eternal Sonata
Lost Odissey

As you can see only the exclusive interest me on the PS3, many multi-platform games between PS3 and 360 goes on my 360 list and I have more Games on the Wii that interest me, does that mean that I think the Wii has more quality game ? No they have all the same amount of quality game for me, but the Wii is more about the quantity of exclusive. The two others had few exclusives with and many multiplatform games. Does it change something, not really. It's only depend of your opinion.

You can say that you think that it lacks quality game because they don't interest you, but don't the console is not for gamers because "YOU" think there are no good games on the console, because it's not true.



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Not suprising that an E3 article would say PS3 has better games, after all it pretty well understood that they had a better showing at the expo this year.

I see that the list makes no mention of Metroid Prime 3, Mario Kart, Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Umbrella Chronicles, Medal of Honor Heros 2, Civ: Revolution, MySims, Donkey Kong Barrel Racing, Wii Fit, Mario Strikers, or any other game on Wii for that matter.

The fact that they gave best fighting game to VF5 should clue you in. (I know SMBB wasn't at E3). They also didn't have best platforming game, or best FPS, (they decided to throw that genre in the Action/Adventure category from the looks of it). They also grouped social, casual & puzzle together and gave the award to a game that you will need to spend a couple hundred dollars on in perripherals just to make the fullest use of the software. (Definately not casual). They also decided arbitrailly that the Rock Band peripherals deserved to win over at least 3 peripherals offered by Nintendo that have recieved more praise from the rest of the online gamming comunity (gamespot, IGN, ect.)

I could nitpick this list all night its that bad. This list lacks cred and so does the site it came from.



Different smokes for different blokes.

Everyone has their own taste, quite honestly I only really buy and play through the 'must must have' games.

For me there is 2 Xbox 360 games that fit this category for ME - Halo 3 and maybe PGR4
I wouldn't mind playing some of the others but that's not enough to justify a purchase for me at the current price.

For me there is 3 PS3 games that fit into the must must have for ME - MGS4, Killzone 2 and RE5
There are others that I would more like to play than on the 360 and I MUST have and player KZ2 and MGS4 so the PS3 is looking much better for me.

For me there is 5 Wii games that fit into the must must have for ME - Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, Smash Bros Brawl, NiGHTS, Zack and Wiki
There aren't many others that I would like to play that much of, although there are some i'd like to try.

For me there are 7 PC games that fit into the ultimate must have for ME - Call of Duty 4, Bioshock, Fallout 3, Crysis, HL2 Ep2, Company of Heroes Expansion, Starcraft 2
Some of these are console available also but PC is more powerful and runs at a higher resolution and is better for me for all of these games and plenty more games that I would like to play that are cross platform also.

In the end the PC remains my favourite gaming source with Wii then PS3 coming in next. It's all a matter of opinion, but there are a lot of good 'hardcore' games on the consoles, but honestly those 'lists' used are pretty 'constructed' they don't represent the best games that really matter on each platform. If I was to knuckle it down to think what the games that deserve listing as the 'big games' are as follows

360
Bioshock
PGR4
Halo3
Grand Theft Auto IV
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
Fallout 3
Resident Evil 5

PS3
Ratchet and Clank
Heavenly Sword
Warhawk
Uncharted
LittleBigPlanet
Final Fantasy 13
Gran turismo 5
MGS4
Killzone2
Grand Theft Auto IV
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
Resident Evil 5

Wii
Animal Crossing
Mario Kart Wii
Metroid Prime 3 Corruption
MySims
Super Mario Galaxy
Wii Fitness
Wii Music

Quality 'hardcore gamer' games you are probably, or definitely right! Will this transpose into the highest selling console? I don't think so.



"I think the Wii has a lot more quality games then the 360 and PS3, but my tastes are different than yours, and different from ONE websites opinion."

ONE website??



We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that they [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so the question is what do you do for the rest of the nine and half years? It's a learning process. - SCEI president Kaz Hirai

It's a virus where you buy it and you play it with your friends and they're like, "Oh my God that's so cool, I'm gonna go buy it." So you stop playing it after two months, but they buy it and they stop playing it after two months but they've showed it to someone else who then go out and buy it and so on. Everyone I know bought one and nobody turns it on. - Epic Games president Mike Capps

We have a real culture of thrift. The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games. - Activision CEO Bobby Kotick

 

"So an arbitrary list of games selected by a bunch of elitest hard-core gamer critics is now the definition of quality?"

http://www.gamecriticsawards.com/index.html

Elitist hardcore gamer critics at USA Today, Newsweek, Time, Entertainment Weekly, Wired, LA Times, Washington Post, San Jose Mercury News, Business 2.0, Popular Science, The Hollywood Reporter, Yahoo Games, MTV....



We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that they [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so the question is what do you do for the rest of the nine and half years? It's a learning process. - SCEI president Kaz Hirai

It's a virus where you buy it and you play it with your friends and they're like, "Oh my God that's so cool, I'm gonna go buy it." So you stop playing it after two months, but they buy it and they stop playing it after two months but they've showed it to someone else who then go out and buy it and so on. Everyone I know bought one and nobody turns it on. - Epic Games president Mike Capps

We have a real culture of thrift. The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games. - Activision CEO Bobby Kotick