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damndl0ser said:
leo-j said:
kowenicki said:
damndl0ser said:

I bought my PS3 mainly for the Blu-ray.  I am a gamer at heart so I thought it was a no brainer to go ahead and pay a little more for the PS3.  The problem being I have never bought a game for the PS3 yet.  I have rented all of the top ones but none have cooersed me into a purchase.  And I think it is mainly due to the fact that around 10 of my real life friends own a 360 and I get on live with them every night for a few hours.  

 

IMO live is the real reason the PS3 will never overtake the 360.  

 

I am in exactly the same position and would say exactly the same.

 

Honestly wow, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN XBOX LIVE AND PLAYSTATION NETWORK.

GIVE ME ONE

 

 

I don't want to get off topic much, but I will give you 3.

1) 10 or more of my real life friends have live as opposed to 1 on PSN.  And the one on PSN is always on live as well.  (the most important)

2) While it isn't as bad as it was when I first got my PS3, PSN disconnects me much more often while playing than live.  As for lag, both can be bad at times but most of that probably is my own connection.

3) Ease of use, I can talk to anyone or receive msgs on live at anytime no matter if they are in a different game or not.  And everyone has a mic.  (everyone having a mic is sometimes a bad thing)

These of course are from my expereince and I am sure you may have a different one.  I don't use PSN as often but things are improving maybe with Home things will get a lot better.  Since my xbox RROD I haven't had a chance to try the Xbox experience yet so this could also add another notch in favor of live.  I should be getting it back this week or early next.  Fingers crossed.

 

So, in other words, there is no difference between Live and PSN.

 



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perpride said:
damndl0ser said:
leo-j said:
kowenicki said:
damndl0ser said:

I bought my PS3 mainly for the Blu-ray.  I am a gamer at heart so I thought it was a no brainer to go ahead and pay a little more for the PS3.  The problem being I have never bought a game for the PS3 yet.  I have rented all of the top ones but none have cooersed me into a purchase.  And I think it is mainly due to the fact that around 10 of my real life friends own a 360 and I get on live with them every night for a few hours.  

 

IMO live is the real reason the PS3 will never overtake the 360.  

 

I am in exactly the same position and would say exactly the same.

 

Honestly wow, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN XBOX LIVE AND PLAYSTATION NETWORK.

GIVE ME ONE

 

 

I don't want to get off topic much, but I will give you 3.

1) 10 or more of my real life friends have live as opposed to 1 on PSN.  And the one on PSN is always on live as well.  (the most important)

2) While it isn't as bad as it was when I first got my PS3, PSN disconnects me much more often while playing than live.  As for lag, both can be bad at times but most of that probably is my own connection.

3) Ease of use, I can talk to anyone or receive msgs on live at anytime no matter if they are in a different game or not.  And everyone has a mic.  (everyone having a mic is sometimes a bad thing)

These of course are from my expereince and I am sure you may have a different one.  I don't use PSN as often but things are improving maybe with Home things will get a lot better.  Since my xbox RROD I haven't had a chance to try the Xbox experience yet so this could also add another notch in favor of live.  I should be getting it back this week or early next.  Fingers crossed.

 

So, in other words, there is no difference between Live and PSN.

 

 

 Exactly what I got out of it.

I can completely cross off number 1 and number 2 (lol number 2) only happened to me after i got cod4 and never happened with resistance. Warhawk had the numbers resetting problem but I dont remember getting kicked. and i find psn easy to use... and I hate mics with kids (and yes i meant mics with kids not kids with mics)



kirby007 said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Kirby is just doing the same things that got him perma banned before. I don't know why he thinks that's a good idea, but it's his account.

Anyways, we should probably get opinions about online lag from someone who owns both systems instead of two fans of opposing consoles.

I got permabanned for standing up against the banning of a member which happend 2 be unjust

But thanks for informing him with wrong information! great job

 

I remember those days.. I still have the sig!

 

@Montana

Your original statement about cheap Blu Ray players only apply for the last 6 months or so. How many sub $300 players where available at the PS3's Launch? how many last year? not to mention that all the cheaps ones where way inferior to the PS3's and its ability to update its firmware.



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LOL MATURE said:
perpride said:
damndl0ser said:
leo-j said:
kowenicki said:
damndl0ser said:

I bought my PS3 mainly for the Blu-ray.  I am a gamer at heart so I thought it was a no brainer to go ahead and pay a little more for the PS3.  The problem being I have never bought a game for the PS3 yet.  I have rented all of the top ones but none have cooersed me into a purchase.  And I think it is mainly due to the fact that around 10 of my real life friends own a 360 and I get on live with them every night for a few hours.  

 

IMO live is the real reason the PS3 will never overtake the 360.  

 

I am in exactly the same position and would say exactly the same.

 

Honestly wow, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN XBOX LIVE AND PLAYSTATION NETWORK.

GIVE ME ONE

 

 

I don't want to get off topic much, but I will give you 3.

1) 10 or more of my real life friends have live as opposed to 1 on PSN.  And the one on PSN is always on live as well.  (the most important)

2) While it isn't as bad as it was when I first got my PS3, PSN disconnects me much more often while playing than live.  As for lag, both can be bad at times but most of that probably is my own connection.

3) Ease of use, I can talk to anyone or receive msgs on live at anytime no matter if they are in a different game or not.  And everyone has a mic.  (everyone having a mic is sometimes a bad thing)

These of course are from my expereince and I am sure you may have a different one.  I don't use PSN as often but things are improving maybe with Home things will get a lot better.  Since my xbox RROD I haven't had a chance to try the Xbox experience yet so this could also add another notch in favor of live.  I should be getting it back this week or early next.  Fingers crossed.

 

So, in other words, there is no difference between Live and PSN.

 

 

 Exactly what I got out of it.

I can completely cross off number 1 and number 2 (lol number 2) only happened to me after i got cod4 and never happened with resistance. Warhawk had the numbers resetting problem but I dont remember getting kicked. and i find psn easy to use... and I hate mics with kids (and yes i meant mics with kids not kids with mics)

I guess I never made myself clear.  While I do believe both PSN and live are very similar, Live is much more polished.  So if you think this makes them =equal= you are totally mistaken.  Live is hands down the superior service.

 



"If you've got them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow."

Quote by- The Imortal John Wayne, the original BADASS!

 

 

 

leo-j said:

Honestly wow, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN XBOX LIVE AND PLAYSTATION NETWORK.

GIVE ME ONE

 

 

Things I did on LIVE last night, none of which I could do on PSN.

In story form...

 

I dropped into the Marketplace to check out the Tomb Raider demo since I've been interested in it since it was announced. I queued it up and browsed through some other new releases. Four other game demos caught my eye, so I queued up all four of them. Also, there was a new video out from Gametrailers, so I queued that up, too.

Then I switched from Marketplace to my Inbox and I noticed I had a new voice message from a friend of mine. He and I have been competing to see who would get the achievement for finding all the Bobbleheads in Fallout 3 first. He checked my profile and noticed I don't have it yet, and he was giving me a hard time since he only has two Bobbleheads to go. I saw that he's playing Gears 2 Multiplayer (and losing 2 rounds to 3), so I feel confident that I can still beat him to the Bobblehead achievement. I opened up a voice chat channel with him and told him to shove off. He laughed and we talked about how his team was getting decimated.

A message popped up telling me the Tomb Raider demo is finished downloading. I could have played it instantly, but I'd already decided on Fallout that night. I switch to the game and start playing, all the while still talking to my friend. In the background, the second download I queued was already going without me having to do a single thing. My brother popped online and quickly opened up a chat channel with me — had had a question about a Christmas thing we're attending. We talked briefly about that and he signed off just as I find the 19th Bobblehead. I promptly switched back to the chat channel with my friend and rubbed it in. He was less than pleased.

By this time, the second and third game demos had both finished downloading, and convenient messages popped up for each letting me know that I can switch to play either of them at any time, but I ignore them in my quest for the 20th Bobblehead.

Perhaps sensing my inevitable victory, my friend tells me that a player dropped out of their team for Horde mode in Gears 2 and asked if I wanted to join. I considered for a moment before deciding that Horde actually sounds like a lot of fun. He sent me an invite and I saved my game in Fallout and switched to Gears. I dropped instantly into his game without having to boot to the menu or go through any hassle.

It became clear very quickly that we needed one more person to do well and I see sixteen people on my friends list are playing Gears — fifteen were already in multiplayer matches, but one was going through the campaign on Hardcore. I sent him an invite since I could see he wasn't playing it on co-op and he accepted, immediately joining our game. We spent an hour and half playing together and made it to wave 30 on Hardcore before we're all killed off by those dog things (if you've played Gears 2, you know what I'm talking about).

Another friend of mine then sent me a voice message asking if I can help her get the Hoarder achievement in Fable 2. I had work the next day, but it would only take a minute, so I agreed. I opened a chat channel and told her to meet me by the clock tower in Bowerstone in-game. I bid my team goodnight and switched out of Gears. I then popped in Fable, loaded up my good character, and ran over to Bowerstone. One of my other friends was playing Fable 2, as well, and I ran into his orb on the bridge to town. We said hello and he asked me if I want to co-op with him, but I couldn't then so I politely declined. The orb of another friend of mine pulled up behind me and yelled something, scaring the hell out of me. All three of us have a laugh at my expense (my laugh was somewhat sheepish). I then said my goodnights and jogged over to the tower, where my friend was waiting patiently. We talked for a minute, then she joined my game with one button press. She then made a dry comment about how clean my Bowerstone is — her character is about as evil as they come and her Bowerstone is a brown delapidated ghetto at this point.

I helped her grab the Hoarder achievement, she thanked me and dropped out of my game back into her Bowerstone. I switched out of Fable to the Dashboard and pulled up my demos to see that they've all downloaded and are ready to play. It's too late at night for that, though, so I shut down the console and called it a day.


~THE END~

 



LEFT 4 DEAD - November 17th

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TruckOSaurus said:
Sardauk said:
haxxiy said:
http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly.php?date=39404&console=&maker=&boxartz=1

X360 attach ratio as of 11/16/07: 5.05
PS3 attach ratio as of 11/08/08: 5.04

:D

 

And ?

 

It's kind of obvious but let's spell it out :

Two years in both XBox 360 and PS3 have a 5 games per system attach rate. So the PS3 is selling games just fine... maybe even better because it has higher sell through after 2 years than 360.

However it's also true that the weakest console always has the best attach ratio... and that tends to be the stronger corelary.

 



auxerre said:
leo-j said:
 

Honestly wow, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN XBOX LIVE AND PLAYSTATION NETWORK.

GIVE ME ONE

 

 

Things I did on LIVE last night, none of which I could do on PSN.

In story form...

 

I dropped into the Marketplace to check out the Tomb Raider demo since I've been interested in it since it was announced. I queued it up and browsed through some other new releases. Four other game demos caught my eye, so I queued up all four of them. Also, there was a new video out from Gametrailers, so I queued that up, too. 

Then I switched from Marketplace to my Inbox and I noticed I had a new voice message from a friend of mine. He and I have been competing to see who would get the achievement for finding all the Bobbleheads in Fallout 3 first. He checked my profile and noticed I don't have it yet, and he was giving me a hard time since he only has two Bobbleheads to go. I saw that he's playing Gears 2 Multiplayer (and losing 2 rounds to 3), so I feel confident that I can still beat him to the Bobblehead achievement. I opened up a voice chat channel with him and told him to shove off. He laughed and we talked about how his team was getting decimated.

A message popped up telling me the Tomb Raider demo is finished downloading. I could have played it instantly, but I'd already decided on Fallout that night. I switch to the game and start playing, all the while still talking to my friend. In the background, the second download I queued was already going without me having to do a single thing. My brother popped online and quickly opened up a chat channel with me — had had a question about a Christmas thing we're attending. We talked briefly about that and he signed off just as I find the 19th Bobblehead. I promptly switched back to the chat channel with my friend and rubbed it in. He was less than pleased.

By this time, the second and third game demos had both finished downloading, and convenient messages popped up for each letting me know that I can switch to play either of them at any time, but I ignore them in my quest for the 20th Bobblehead.

Perhaps sensing my inevitable victory, my friend tells me that a player dropped out of their team for Horde mode in Gears 2 and asked if I wanted to join. I considered for a moment before deciding that Horde actually sounds like a lot of fun. He sent me an invite and I saved my game in Fallout and switched to Gears. I dropped instantly into his game without having to boot to the menu or go through any hassle.

It became clear very quickly that we needed one more person to do well and I see sixteen people on my friends list are playing Gears — fifteen were already in multiplayer matches, but one was going through the campaign on Hardcore. I sent him an invite since I could see he wasn't playing it on co-op and he accepted, immediately joining our game. We spent an hour and half playing together and made it to wave 30 on Hardcore before we're all killed off by those dog things (if you've played Gears 2, you know what I'm talking about).

Another friend of mine then sent me a voice message asking if I can help her get the Hoarder achievement in Fable 2. I had work the next day, but it would only take a minute, so I agreed. I opened a chat channel and told her to meet me by the clock tower in Bowerstone in-game. I bid my team goodnight and switched out of Gears. I then popped in Fable, loaded up my good character, and ran over to Bowerstone. One of my other friends was playing Fable 2, as well, and I ran into his orb on the bridge to town. We said hello and he asked me if I want to co-op with him, but I couldn't then so I politely declined. The orb of another friend of mine pulled up behind me and yelled something, scaring the hell out of me. All three of us have a laugh at my expense (my laugh was somewhat sheepish). I then said my goodnights and jogged over to the tower, where my friend was waiting patiently. We talked for a minute, then she joined my game with one button press. She then made a dry comment about how clean my Bowerstone is — her character is about as evil as they come and her Bowerstone is a brown delapidated ghetto at this point.

I helped her grab the Hoarder achievement, she thanked me and dropped out of my game back into her Bowerstone. I switched out of Fable to the Dashboard and pulled up my demos to see that they've all downloaded and are ready to play. It's too late at night for that, though, so I shut down the console and called it a day.


~THE END~

 

the only thing in this story that i picked up was the cross game chatting, invites and voice messaging. not much of a story eh? 

 




DOATS1 said:

the only thing in this story that i picked up was the cross game chatting, invites and voice messaging. not much of a story eh? 

 

And handling of your download que, but that's four things, of which he asked for one.

To me, cross-game chatting and invites are the meat, anyway. What's the point of an online community if you're only connected to each other when you're playing the exact same game at the exact same time?



LEFT 4 DEAD - November 17th

auxerre said:
DOATS1 said:
 

the only thing in this story that i picked up was the cross game chatting, invites and voice messaging. not much of a story eh? 

 

And handling of your download que, but that's four things, of which he asked for one.

To me, cross-game chatting and invites are the meat, anyway. What's the point of an online community if you're only connected to each other when you're playing the exact same game at the exact same time?

you wrote 7 paragraphs to explain 4 points? actually, 3; you can handle your download queues on psn too. and for your second point...what? you're always connected together on psn. ever heard of sending a text message? i admit xbl is much easier, but what's wrong with sending a message to your friend telling them to join you in a game? the xbl is not that much better than psn anymore.

 




DOATS1 said:
auxerre said:
DOATS1 said:

the only thing in this story that i picked up was the cross game chatting, invites and voice messaging. not much of a story eh? 

 

And handling of your download que, but that's four things, of which he asked for one.

To me, cross-game chatting and invites are the meat, anyway. What's the point of an online community if you're only connected to each other when you're playing the exact same game at the exact same time?

you wrote 7 paragraphs to explain 4 points? actually, 3; you can handle your download queues on psn too. and for your second point...what? you're always connected together on psn. ever heard of sending a text message? i admit xbl is much easier, but what's wrong with sending a message to your friend telling them to join you in a game? the xbl is not that much better than psn anymore.

 

I know you can set up a que on PSN, but it handles it poorly.

And yes, I wrote 7 paragraphs to explain 4 points because people like you act like they aren't a point. Sending someone a text message is not the same as chatting with them while playing separate games. Trying to pretend it is is just silly.

The real question is whether being able to chat with your friends whenever you want, cross-game invites, party systems, voice-messaging, etc. is worth the $39 a year versus what you get on PSN for free. To you, it might not be. But to me, it is. Even when I'm playing single player games, I am talking to my friends and it completely changes the experience.



LEFT 4 DEAD - November 17th