Not to mention is a candy with half of the power of that bitter pill...

          While the prior comment is also a bit fanboyish, I believe he was trying to reiterate the cost appeal difference between the two consoles. (2) wrongs don't make a right.....so...that being said, I don't even want to try educating you on your bolded statement, so I shall let the intelligent denizens of VG Chartz, feast upon your bones........good day.

          Are you serious....(rolls eyes)...please see sweettoofs bones!

Do you really think the holiday shopper really knows or cares about all that other stuff? You're seriously overestimating how much the average person actually knows or about things like hard drives or system power. As far as they are concerned, they both play the games and that's all that matter.

I'm not saying it doesn't matter at all, but in the eyes of a person who never reads a gaming magazine or website, those features are close to meaningless. They will see two boxes that play nearly all the same games, one for $199 and one for $399.

 ...And just as important, the sales clerck in the store will warmly recommend it, adding that the 360 is a great machine that runs virtually all the great games and have some great exclusives that the $399 machine doesn't have.

This thread could get very painful.....for everyone, if we all dont play nice....XD.

Actually you guys contradict what you say, If someone is cheap enough to only buy a $200 console than they're probably the kind of shopper that compares products and would realize that it has no value whatsoever aside from being able to play a few games. My friend works at best buy and he tells people to steer clear of the arcade and at least buy the Pro package... Once those people see that the PS3 is only a little bit more and has blu ray, wifi, better reliabilty and free online it's a no brainer.

Good points sweet, PS3 is the full package.

Uhm, and no sales clerk will say anything positive about the PS3?  And if it's a sales clerk, he will also mention everything that the 199 dollar machine doesn't have (since in your case he only talks about the "haves" of the 199 dollar machine).

And to pick up on Fishy's point: if most people don't know about or cares about that kind of stuff... Over here, the PS3 is now also being advertized on tv as a blu-ray player specifically, so it'll entice people that way too "since they won't know too much about it all".

The xbox will outsell it, but to suddenly go stating that it'll blow it out of the water because you're one or two weeks further.... It's not as if it's blowing the ps3 out of the water now.

Well, the 360 does blow it out of the water in the USA. A 2:1 sales ratio for the full October month is nothing to ignore.

October was no accident and no fluke. The effect of the price cut was pretty dramatic. The price cut was done in late september and dramatically pushed the sales of the 360 for that month. It continued in full force in October getting the 360 to outsell the PS3 by a 2:1 ratio. November started with the huge blockbuster of GOW2 and now the NXE is released to rave reviews to pile on top of the low price.

The same dramatic effect of the price cut was noticed in "Others" as were the 360 moved from a distant 3rd to a consistant second for 10 weeks running. And even in Japan the 360 really holding its own after writing the market off already.

So there is no "suddenly" here. There is a consistent observable trend, rooted is solid foundations, that is lasting long enough to be considered as the new market behavior.