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noname2200 said:

BMaker11 said:

False.

Does that work out to be a double-negative, or was that just crappy editing? You decide!

Huh? He was talking about the ability to sell GOOD 3rd party titles (a positive), and I said false (a negative). How is that then a double-negative?

 



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hanafuda said:
Menago KF said:
You know, CoD isn't your typical day 1 purchase title. I would assume that it will sell a bunch during christmas, so don't fret just yet.

It's amazing all these Wii games that aren't day 1 purchases...

It seems that it's the natural system of damage control by Wii fans.

I just don't "get" how Super Smash Brothers Brawl can sell 2.8 million copies in one week. Mario Kart Wii can sell 2.4 million copies in a week, and even Wii Fit can sell 1.6 million units at $99.99 each in a week, yet games like Madden 09, and Call of Duty 5 do very horrible and are labled "games that aren't Day-1 purchases". What kind of bizarro world is this?

Wii fans CAN buy massive amounts of copies on day-1. Problem is, they seem to need to be either family/casual games, or games under the Nintendo umbrella.

 



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trestres said:
@mrstickball: Instead of horribly trolling, read my post. I think you may find some answers there.

So that would mean that 3rd party multi-plat games will always perform poorly on the Wii, as per your statement, right? That is, unless your average 'core/hardcore' gamer suddenly buys a Wii, and plays it exclusively.

Of course, that doesn't take into account the exclusive failures such as Zak & Wiki, No More Heroes, and others.



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Haven't we all learned by now?

No Wii game is a Day 1 title. >_>



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DMJ - Except for Nintendo-backed 'big' games. Which tend to have massive openings like any other system.

And Trestes - Didn't you notice before attacking me of being a troll, I posted once in this thread before UK numbers came out and said "if it didn't sell within 50% of the PS3 version, I'd post in my sig that the Wii can't move 3rd party core games"?



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BengaBenga said:
I think the game sold much more than 60.000 worldwide. Wii gamers are probably not the typical online gamers. I'd put the amount of gamers that makes an online acount in the first 3 days at around 1 in 5, which would mean closer to 100.000 first week, which is fine. Wii games have longer legs and I'm sure this game will reach 500k over the holidays.

 

That's what everyone was saying about Madden Wii, with many claims that it would outsell the PS3 version.  Instead of considering "Wii games have legs" as axiomatic how about we wait and see?



BMaker11 said:
noname2200 said:

BMaker11 said:

False.

Does that work out to be a double-negative, or was that just crappy editing? You decide!

Huh? He was talking about the ability to sell GOOD 3rd party titles (a positive), and I said false (a negative). How is that then a double-negative?

Read the whole sentence again, mate. Here.

"I would find it to be pretty damning of the Wii as a console that can move good 3rd party games"

I direct your attention to the clause you failed to bold, i.e. the critical part. It changes the phrase from "talking about the ability to sell GOOD 3rd party titles" to "I'm skeptical that the Wii has the ability to sell good 3rd party titles." Hence the remark about crappy editing. Context matters.

In any case, I'll stick with the crappy editing rationale, rather than the double-negative. Let's move on.

 



noname2200 said:
BMaker11 said:
noname2200 said:

BMaker11 said:

False.

Does that work out to be a double-negative, or was that just crappy editing? You decide!

Huh? He was talking about the ability to sell GOOD 3rd party titles (a positive), and I said false (a negative). How is that then a double-negative?

Read the whole sentence again, mate. Here.

"I would find it to be pretty damning of the Wii as a console that can move good 3rd party games"

I direct your attention to the clause you failed to bold, i.e. the critical part. It changes the phrase from "talking about the ability to sell GOOD 3rd party titles" to "I'm skeptical that the Wii has the ability to sell good 3rd party titles." Hence the remark about crappy editing. Context matters.

In any case, I'll stick with the crappy editing rationale, rather than the double-negative. Let's move on.

 

Before moving on, this is what was said:

"Maybe it's just me, but I would find it to be pretty damning of the Wii as a console that can move good 3rd party games if it can't even move 1/10th of the units the X360/PS3 will sell on Week-1"

Meaning, he's saying that it's bad that a console that can move GOOD 3rd party software can't do a tenth of the other consoles (with smaller install bases btw).

At which point, I highlighted "good" and said "false". No double negative. No crappy editing.

On topic:

I've seen CoD:WaW Wii and honestly, I can expect these numbers. As stated before, people who would play this game would get it for PS3/360 more often than on Wii. It's a hardcore title when it comes to the campaign. I would say it has casual appeal for the online, but Wii Online is a joke.

 



I heard a different story. Some GameFAQs users say they can't find the game because they were sold out, but it was because there was limited supply. People were seeing 2 Wii copies while seeing 20 360 copies. Also, some retailers haven't even gotten copies. Here's a link to the thread:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=946229&topic=46564352