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Forums - General Discussion - Do you believe in love? (a.k.a hear me ranting)

So, here i am, a goddamn atheist, nihilistic, skeptic, in love?

There's this girl, and well... When everything is okay between us, it's fucking wonderful, there's nothing better than the two of us together.

But man, she can't stand a fight. I mean, fights happen at any relationship and couples are meant to go through it as couples, but instead of talking, she goes about ending the relationship and i have to make an effort to get everything allright. Damn, she talks about how she's not good enough for me because she is too shy to make a lot of things with me and this ruins our relationship.

This must have happened a lot of times already, but this time it was a little more serious from her side, from her wanting time and all, something she never asked before.

Thing is, is not that i want a girl to wrap my arm around and call mine, it's because i fucking love her, there are other girls i know that are insterested in me and i can have them if i leave this girl behind but i can't see myself happy with anyone else.

And now, i don't know if she will come back, damn, probably yes, but i don't know if i should keep taking it...

Oh i needed to take this out, sorry people.

 

So, do you believe in love or you think it's just our brain messing with us and we can move on?




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Love is real, although people often mistake what they think is love for something else.

Love even exists outside the human race, which is further proof that it is a natural phenomenon. Love exists in a lot of animals. Look at dogs. Dogs are loyal as hell to their owner and are usually upset when they see their owner hurt.

There are plenty of evolutionary reasons why love would be beneficial too. It creates stronger bonding between members of species which helps them protect each other, it makes species more likely to breed, and it causes other advantageous physical effects on the body.

Love is definitely not something that humans have made up, even if it seems that way sometimes. Sorry if my analysis got a little scientific, but that is probably the only convincing way to say that love is real.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

Interesting post, but do you think you can feel it only once for one person or you can leave it behind and never love or maybe love someone else? I tried to never love and i was doing very well until recently, what raises another question, is it possible not to love the entire life?




Flow -"The important is to pwn other ppl"

It takes A LOT to get me to break up with a girl I love. A LOT. But, if a girl loves me and I don't really love her, I'd dump her for putting too much cheese on her sandwich. Really, any plausible excuse will suffice. Once, I told my girlfriend to go out with her ex boyfriend to make sure she was over him. She went to lunch with him and told me that she was positive that there was nothing left between them. When she did, I told her that I couldn't date her anymore because the thought of her and him together was killing me (really, I just wanted to break up without being a bad guy).

If this girl is always ready to break up, maybe she's not as much in love as you are.



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Nah, love can be extinguished fairly easily and fairly quickly.

Obviously the longer you have been in love with someone the longer it takes for the love to just disappear, but even people who have been together for over twenty years can fall out of love pretty quickly if one spouse finds the other spouse cheating on them.

The stronger the connection, usually the more painful falling out of love is, but love is both incredibly strong and incredibly fragile at the same time. But honestly I think this makes people appreciate love even more.

That being said, there are plenty of people who go on loving someone even after that person has treated them like absolute crap, including cheating on them. But that can be social conditioning as much as anything else, such as if you had an abusive parent or some kind of other emotional problems.

Of course this is all under the assumption that humans are naturally monogamous, which is quite an assumption. But based on our biology (nine month gestation period and having to take care of children for a very long time before they are self-sufficient), there is a fairly strong argument that monogamy or something close to it is at least potentially normal for humans.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

I don't believe in the notion that you can find love only with one, specific person.

I do believe, however, that once you have really loved, you will from that point be irreversibly changed. How that change affects you will vary from person to person.



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People who think you can only truly love one person are just plain dreaming. That's just not how people actually are and how emotions are formed. You could psychologically convince yourself that you will always care about one specific person more than everyone else, but that is a voluntary choice.

And I also don't think it is possible to love absolutely no one for an entire life. Not unless you were isolated from people for your entire life or were simply locked in a closet and beaten by people your entire life. Love is almost second nature for people. Though this kind of depends on where you draw the line between attraction and love, but I really don't think it is possible for an ordinary person to go through their entire life without loving anyone. Our biological drives are just too strong.

Now if your biological drives were somehow defective in some way through a chemical imbalance or some kind of damage that happened to the emotional sectors of your brain when you were born, then I would say it could be possible.

Also, a severely mentally retarded person who operates at a lower mental level than animal does, or someone who is a vegetable may run into that kind of problem since those parts of their brain might never really function in a way wear they could love someone.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

akuma587 said:
People who think you can only truly love one person are just plain dreaming. That's just not how people actually are and how emotions are formed. You could psychologically convince yourself that you will always care about one specific person more than everyone else, but that is a voluntary choice.

And I also don't think it is impossible to love absolutely no one for an entire life. Not unless you were isolated from people for your entire life or were simply locked in a closet and beaten by people your entire life. Love is almost second nature for people. Though this kind of depends on where you draw the line between attraction and love, but I really don't think it is possible for an ordinary person to go through their entire life without loving anyone. Our biological drives are just too strong.

Now if your biological drives were somehow defective in some way through a chemical imbalance or something, then I would say it could be possible.

In this statement, are you referring to what might be described as "romantic" love, or love as a general concept?



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GooseGaws said:
akuma587 said:
People who think you can only truly love one person are just plain dreaming. That's just not how people actually are and how emotions are formed. You could psychologically convince yourself that you will always care about one specific person more than everyone else, but that is a voluntary choice.

And I also don't think it is possible to love absolutely no one for an entire life. Not unless you were isolated from people for your entire life or were simply locked in a closet and beaten by people your entire life. Love is almost second nature for people. Though this kind of depends on where you draw the line between attraction and love, but I really don't think it is possible for an ordinary person to go through their entire life without loving anyone. Our biological drives are just too strong.

Now if your biological drives were somehow defective in some way through a chemical imbalance or something, then I would say it could be possible.

In this statement, are you referring to what might be described as "romantic" love, or love as a general concept?

Romantic love.  I sincerely believe that people are that strongly drawn to the opposite sex, or members of the same sex if they are gay.  Our biological drives are really that strong.  You might not even be in a relationship your entire life and you could still fall in love with people.

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson