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TheGza on 16 November 2008
Kasz216 said:

There were two women in my PE class who could compete just as well as any guy could.

The only difference between men and women is that men are more likely to be bigger.  Which is the same when it comes to the difference between Black people and Jewish people.  (When dealing with sports qualifications.)

A man and a women with equal muscle mass have equal strength.

I'd say a lot of reason women's records are lower then men's is because men are more encouraged to do things like sports.

Do you have any idea the role Testosterone plays in the building of muscle?

 



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Thatmax on 16 November 2008

nope, not in the slightest.



Ickalanda on 16 November 2008

The physical differences between men and women strength wise really are so great that it would honestly be so hard for women to get into any professional team that it just wouldn't be fair.

If women's league's didn't exist then very few women would be in sports at all because they would be physically incapable of reaching the physical requirements of those sports without some sort of steroid use or other enhancer.

It's been scientifically proven and just overall obvious that men are physically stronger than women naturally and just because of how male hormones are we have much more physical potential in the strength field.

I do not think female sports are sexist, I believe that they open up the opportunity for women to enter athletics if they want to and compete off in their own league.

If a woman is able to compete in the Men's leagues then she should be able to, but the fact is a huge majority of women can't and unless you want to see the number of women in athletics drop to a small percentage of what it currently is then women's leagues should continue to exist.



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MontanaHatchet on 16 November 2008

Kasz, I think you're an intelligent person, but this is an argument you simply can not win by any measure.



 

 

Broncos724 on 17 November 2008
Kasz216 said:
Broncos724 said:
This is all a moot point.

There are not laws or restrictions against women playing in professional sports. The truth is just that there are not any women out there who could possibly hope to compete with men at that high of a level. I'm talking about "real" sports (this will probably start arguments lol), not golf, racecar driving, table tennis etc. The only exception that comes to mind is Billie Jean King in tennis. But today the gap has widened considerably between men and women with the onset of steroids and other supplements.

Is it not fair that women don't then have their own leagues? I think it's perfectly fair. Sports are a business just like any other business, and the product they sell has to be a good one. Women are, from that perspective, not as good of a product, so a lot of times there is no market for professional women leagues.

Yet those leagues still exist.

The WNBA has been nothing but a giant sinkhole of money.  Women's college sports are pretty much never cost effective.  Instead taking money from the more expensive profitable men's programs... (and often complain that they don't get equal money and scholarships.)

The free market doesn't come in because people think that seregation is being fair for some reason.  Seperate but equal so to speak.  (Or seperate but not equal.)

 

 

Yes, those leagues still do exist.  But like you said, most of them only exist because they are "allowed" to exist.  My point was that women playing sports are not as good of a product from an entertainment perspective because men are so much more athletically superior, it makes for more compelling competition.  With the exception of mostly tennis and maybe the WNBA, most women sports would not last long if they weren't allowed to exist as they do.

On an aside, people have always complained about sexism in sports, it seems.  So the solution is Title IX, which requires high schools and colleges to have an equal, or greater, number of women's sports teams to men's teams.  So how exactly does it make things "equal" when most programs now offer more women's sports teams than men's?  Doesn't that turn the discrimination on its head?



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Final-Fan on 17 November 2008
Jackson50 said:
MontanaHatchet said:
As for women's bathrooms, I accidentally walked into one when I was 8 years old. It was sparkling clean and had a grey couch. Besides, are you doubting the wisdom of age old stereotypes and reason? Why wouldn't they be cleaner? Unisex bathrooms would be fine as long as urinals were removed. I'd approve of that, since they don't do anything a toilet couldn't do and they're a waste of whatever material that they're made up of.
Women would never assent to unisex bathrooms.

I dunno, they might like the shorter lines.



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mesoteto on 17 November 2008

it really depends on the sport and the level of physical activity

we have far more testosterone and other hormones that encourage muscle growth and aggression


it science fact men were designed for this role while women were designed to be more of a nurturer...

bt that is not always the case do to evolution of society



 

Final-Fan on 17 November 2008
Broncos724 said:
On an aside, people have always complained about sexism in sports, it seems.  So the solution is Title IX, which requires high schools and colleges to have an equal, or greater, number of women's sports teams to men's teams.  So how exactly does it make things "equal" when most programs now offer more women's sports teams than men's?  Doesn't that turn the discrimination on its head?

I think you may have a misunderstanding of what Title IX calls for.



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d21lewis on 17 November 2008

Women's sports aren't sexist........they're sexy! Grrrrroowwl!!



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Women's sports aren't sexist........they're sexy! Grrrrroowwl!!

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