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S.T.A.G.E. said:
jlauro said:
leo-j said:

Well yes, thats exactly whats happening.

 

Microsoft is what is stopping sony from its "dominance" over the gaming market.

Whats going on? Well were to begin.

They have stolen every single game that was considered a playstation franchise developed by any 3rd party studio(yes stolen, Im so sure that SQUARE didnt decide to release STAR OCEAN 4 a massive RPG on the XBOX 360 exclusively all by themselves)

They have made sony gain a terrible image in the gaming industry

They have tricked consumers into thinking the XBOX 360 is the superior machine, because the original XBOX was better hardware wise

They created the catch phrase "Wii60"

They have dropped the price to MASS MARKET price, even though that might have but them in the red.

All I know is, Microsoft wants SONY out of the gaming industry, that has since been there goal since the original XBOX, and im sure they will offer 2-3billion dollars of losses for that to happen.

Buisness is buisness, and guess what, cheating is the perfect way to win.

 

This is normal operating procedure for Microsoft.  I seriously don't understand why people think Microsoft's practices would have been any different in the console market then any other market.

Some of the practices were similar to what Sony did to Sega, but Microsoft is on another level...

Some of it was fair competition, and clever strategy.  The biggest problem I have with Microsoft is they seriously do it to not only attempt to get the best market share as a friendly rival, but the do seriously do try to drive their competition out of business.  The do not simply use a companies weakness against them, such as high price and weak library, they use it to crush them...  by undercutting the cost even further, and buying exclusives away.

 

Microsoft is being nice right now. They aren't a company that you can allow the learn how a new market works. Sony needed to keep them wet behind the ears and keep them weak, but they got arrogant. Microsoft ace carded them with their own gameplan. Sony may be evil, but Microsoft is twice as evil and dominant. Right now they are playing nice until they have reached full power.

 

 @ your Entire post.

Wtf is this a battle? O_o



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Reject said:
Business is business but the Playstation brand has gathered a fierce reputation, no way is a brand with 250+ Million consoles going to drop out of the business. PS3 has been shitted on by the media for years and guess what? PS3 numbers are still higher compared to what 360 was at the same time, WITH a higher price tag and so many of there big franchises still to go.

Then the PS2 is still going and the PSP is doing nicely, MS wont be able to get the Playstation brand to die and thank goodness for that. 10 years from now it will be MS releasing over priced consoles and not releasing a good game for 2 years.

 

 

LOL! Who said Microsoft wanted Sony to die!? LMAO!!! They want them to squirm until next gen when they launch the 720 with a larger installed base. Thats when the true damage will occur. This gen is a living sacrifice to stop Sony from bypassing them and having at Nintendo who they've bowed out from competing against.



jlauro said:
leo-j said:

Well yes, thats exactly whats happening.

 

Microsoft is what is stopping sony from its "dominance" over the gaming market.

Whats going on? Well were to begin.

They have stolen every single game that was considered a playstation franchise developed by any 3rd party studio(yes stolen, Im so sure that SQUARE didnt decide to release STAR OCEAN 4 a massive RPG on the XBOX 360 exclusively all by themselves)

They have made sony gain a terrible image in the gaming industry

They have tricked consumers into thinking the XBOX 360 is the superior machine, because the original XBOX was better hardware wise

They created the catch phrase "Wii60"

They have dropped the price to MASS MARKET price, even though that might have but them in the red.

All I know is, Microsoft wants SONY out of the gaming industry, that has since been there goal since the original XBOX, and im sure they will offer 2-3billion dollars of losses for that to happen.

Buisness is buisness, and guess what, cheating is the perfect way to win.

 

This is normal operating procedure for Microsoft. I seriously don't understand why people think Microsoft's practices would have been any different in the console market then any other market.

Some of the practices were similar to what Sony did to Sega, but Microsoft is on another level...

Some of it was fair competition, and clever strategy. The biggest problem I have with Microsoft is they seriously do it to not only attempt to get the best market share as a friendly rival, but the do seriously do try to drive their competition out of business. The do not simply use a companies weakness against them, such as high price and weak library, they use it to crush them... by undercutting the cost even further, and buying exclusives away.

 

Its called Console WAR,not console get to gether and have some tea,a quote comes to mind,If you cant take the heat get the heck out of the kitchen.



Had Sony not been so complacent this generation with the PS3 the 360 would not be on the market any more. Had the PS3 released with GT5, GOW 3 and FFXIII that would have been it, won against 360 before the "battle" even begun.

Price tag was high but I find it has to believe that the PS3 would still not sell great with such games released. Of course the key word here is "had".....



Garnett said:
jlauro said:
leo-j said:

Well yes, thats exactly whats happening.

 

Microsoft is what is stopping sony from its "dominance" over the gaming market.

Whats going on? Well were to begin.

They have stolen every single game that was considered a playstation franchise developed by any 3rd party studio(yes stolen, Im so sure that SQUARE didnt decide to release STAR OCEAN 4 a massive RPG on the XBOX 360 exclusively all by themselves)

They have made sony gain a terrible image in the gaming industry

They have tricked consumers into thinking the XBOX 360 is the superior machine, because the original XBOX was better hardware wise

They created the catch phrase "Wii60"

They have dropped the price to MASS MARKET price, even though that might have but them in the red.

All I know is, Microsoft wants SONY out of the gaming industry, that has since been there goal since the original XBOX, and im sure they will offer 2-3billion dollars of losses for that to happen.

Buisness is buisness, and guess what, cheating is the perfect way to win.

 

This is normal operating procedure for Microsoft. I seriously don't understand why people think Microsoft's practices would have been any different in the console market then any other market.

Some of the practices were similar to what Sony did to Sega, but Microsoft is on another level...

Some of it was fair competition, and clever strategy. The biggest problem I have with Microsoft is they seriously do it to not only attempt to get the best market share as a friendly rival, but the do seriously do try to drive their competition out of business. The do not simply use a companies weakness against them, such as high price and weak library, they use it to crush them... by undercutting the cost even further, and buying exclusives away.

 

Its called Console WAR,not console get to gether and have some tea,a quote comes to mind,If you cant take the heat get the heck out of the kitchen.

@ the blacked-out word...

 



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Seraphic_Sixaxis said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
jlauro said:
leo-j said:

Well yes, thats exactly whats happening.

 

Microsoft is what is stopping sony from its "dominance" over the gaming market.

Whats going on? Well were to begin.

They have stolen every single game that was considered a playstation franchise developed by any 3rd party studio(yes stolen, Im so sure that SQUARE didnt decide to release STAR OCEAN 4 a massive RPG on the XBOX 360 exclusively all by themselves)

They have made sony gain a terrible image in the gaming industry

They have tricked consumers into thinking the XBOX 360 is the superior machine, because the original XBOX was better hardware wise

They created the catch phrase "Wii60"

They have dropped the price to MASS MARKET price, even though that might have but them in the red.

All I know is, Microsoft wants SONY out of the gaming industry, that has since been there goal since the original XBOX, and im sure they will offer 2-3billion dollars of losses for that to happen.

Buisness is buisness, and guess what, cheating is the perfect way to win.

 

This is normal operating procedure for Microsoft.  I seriously don't understand why people think Microsoft's practices would have been any different in the console market then any other market.

Some of the practices were similar to what Sony did to Sega, but Microsoft is on another level...

Some of it was fair competition, and clever strategy.  The biggest problem I have with Microsoft is they seriously do it to not only attempt to get the best market share as a friendly rival, but the do seriously do try to drive their competition out of business.  The do not simply use a companies weakness against them, such as high price and weak library, they use it to crush them...  by undercutting the cost even further, and buying exclusives away.

 

Microsoft is being nice right now. They aren't a company that you can allow the learn how a new market works. Sony needed to keep them wet behind the ears and keep them weak, but they got arrogant. Microsoft ace carded them with their own gameplan. Sony may be evil, but Microsoft is twice as evil and dominant. Right now they are playing nice until they have reached full power.

 

 @ your Entire post.

Wtf is this a battle? O_o

 

Restate the question so I may respond properly. :)



Reject said:
Had Sony not been so complacent this generation with the PS3 the 360 would not be on the market any more. Had the PS3 released with GT5, GOW 3 and FFXIII that would have been it, won against 360 before the "battle" even begun.

Price tag was high but I find it has to believe that the PS3 would still not sell great with such games released. Of course the key word here is "had".....

 

Que?



Stop with the quoting.....



Former something....

Sony should prepare themselves to battle it out with MS, cause the way this gen is playing out, MS isnt going to target Nintendos market share any time soon. Instead, they are gonna focus on eating further into Sony's marketshare, since both their products are targeted at exactly the same demographic.This might take a gen or two, but im pretty sure thats what they want to do. And its Sony's fault to have given them such an obvious opening this generation



"The accumulated filth of all their sex and murders will foam up about their waist and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"...

 ....and I'll look down and whisper  "no."  

                                                                   - Rorschach

leo-j said:

Microsoft is what is stopping sony from its "dominance" over the gaming market.

Partially true, but there are other factors too, price, the Wii, removing PS2 backwards compatability

Whats going on? Well were to begin.

They have stolen every single game that was considered a playstation franchise developed by any 3rd party studio(yes stolen, Im so sure that SQUARE didnt decide to release STAR OCEAN 4 a massive RPG on the XBOX 360 exclusively all by themselves)

Sony have kept MGS, but yes, GTA and FF (non Japan) especially were huge

They have made sony gain a terrible image in the gaming industry

I don't think MS did this, it was mostly a few arrogant Sony PR reps, combined with the PS3's price tag

They have tricked consumers into thinking the XBOX 360 is the superior machine, because the original XBOX was better hardware wise

The PS3 has the better processor, and blu ray stores more, but the lack of ram, difficulty in programming for it and low read speed from blu ray mean that 360 games do often look better

They created the catch phrase "Wii60"

PSwii is the ultimate comeback :P

They have dropped the price to MASS MARKET price, even though that might have but them in the red.

I agree, they did this to stay ahead of the PS3

All I know is, Microsoft wants SONY out of the gaming industry, that has since been there goal since the original XBOX, and im sure they will offer 2-3billion dollars of losses for that to happen.

Not so much out of the business completely, but they do want to severely weaken them, and stop them threatening the Windows OS

Buisness is buisness, and guess what, cheating is the perfect way to win.

Cheating? how is this cheating?