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S.T.A.G.E. on 17 November 2008
Username2324 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
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gebx said:
Username2324 said:
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CGI-Quality said:
True WINNERS in this thread: ssj12, username, leo-j. All this “oh Sony is soooooo doomed” crap is a little ridiculous. Resistance 2 and LBP are nothing short of masterpieces and anyone who owns, and is currently playing them, knows this. @ OP: you should just go play games and have fun, not dwell on who sells the most since you have NO control over it anyway.

 

 

Um...I don't think LBP and Resistance 2 are bad games dude. I was talking about sales issues on Sony's part.

It doesn't appear  that you have a PS3, so I ask, how would you know whether each game was good or not? Perhaps a 30 second peak at a friends, hmm?

 

Actually yesterday I treated myself a PS3. I'm buying MGS4 on friday.

 

Yesterday... And in that time you've been able to complete LBP and Resistance 2?

 

@Username

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On Topic - I think everyone is missing the point here... Why create a game that will cost you more to develop on the console that sells less software??

As long as the 360 keeps increasing its lead you'll see more exclusives (timed or not) heading to the 360 by third party developers. More PC developers will create 360 ports, and more games will lead to more console sales.

The PS3 is in trouble, a price cut saved it last time in Europe and almost killed the 360 in Europe. Another one is needed really soon, cause the nails are starting to pile up next to the coffin again (I'm not saying the PS3 is dead, I'm just saying the undertaker is starting to collect his stuff)

Because by creating games on the PS3 it is easier to port to other platforms thus saving you money. Hint hint look at what EA is doing... We've also seen the PS3 creating more revenue for developers. And people need to knock it off with this "the PS3 is in trouble" business. Just take a peak at the front page, costs 2x as much, sells just as many... Kinda makes you think doesn't it?

 

What are you talking about? The PS3 is not the easiest system to start the job and save money porting to others. Just for starters the PS3 is the most expensive console to develop for and the most time consuming. If a game is ported to the PS3, bro...it's going to take a while. It may sell just as many, but it's 5 million behind, they cannot make profit off of online premium like Microsoft can (and they want to,trust me. Especially now that Kutaragi is out of the picture), and Microsoft throws more money at their games to be more appealing. Microsoft out of them and Sony are acting more like a dominant corporation than Sony is, just expecting people to leave their 3rd party games exclusive.

 

Like I said, it's easier to port from PS3 to other consoles, which in the long run saves time and money. Why do you think EA, a massive gaming company is beginning to do this?

 

 

Ummm...because of Sony sales with EA? Especially with sports last gen. It's not easier to port from the PS3. A PS3 games timeline of creation is more expensive and time consuming. If it was made on the 360 for a similar HD experience it would cost less and not take half the time to make.



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Reasonable on 17 November 2008
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Username2324 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Username2324 said:
gebx said:
Username2324 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Username2324 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
CGI-Quality said:
True WINNERS in this thread: ssj12, username, leo-j. All this “oh Sony is soooooo doomed” crap is a little ridiculous. Resistance 2 and LBP are nothing short of masterpieces and anyone who owns, and is currently playing them, knows this. @ OP: you should just go play games and have fun, not dwell on who sells the most since you have NO control over it anyway.

 

 

Um...I don't think LBP and Resistance 2 are bad games dude. I was talking about sales issues on Sony's part.

It doesn't appear  that you have a PS3, so I ask, how would you know whether each game was good or not? Perhaps a 30 second peak at a friends, hmm?

 

Actually yesterday I treated myself a PS3. I'm buying MGS4 on friday.

 

Yesterday... And in that time you've been able to complete LBP and Resistance 2?

 

@Username

See highlighted...

 

On Topic - I think everyone is missing the point here... Why create a game that will cost you more to develop on the console that sells less software??

As long as the 360 keeps increasing its lead you'll see more exclusives (timed or not) heading to the 360 by third party developers. More PC developers will create 360 ports, and more games will lead to more console sales.

The PS3 is in trouble, a price cut saved it last time in Europe and almost killed the 360 in Europe. Another one is needed really soon, cause the nails are starting to pile up next to the coffin again (I'm not saying the PS3 is dead, I'm just saying the undertaker is starting to collect his stuff)

Because by creating games on the PS3 it is easier to port to other platforms thus saving you money. Hint hint look at what EA is doing... We've also seen the PS3 creating more revenue for developers. And people need to knock it off with this "the PS3 is in trouble" business. Just take a peak at the front page, costs 2x as much, sells just as many... Kinda makes you think doesn't it?

 

What are you talking about? The PS3 is not the easiest system to start the job and save money porting to others. Just for starters the PS3 is the most expensive console to develop for and the most time consuming. If a game is ported to the PS3, bro...it's going to take a while. It may sell just as many, but it's 5 million behind, they cannot make profit off of online premium like Microsoft can (and they want to,trust me. Especially now that Kutaragi is out of the picture), and Microsoft throws more money at their games to be more appealing. Microsoft out of them and Sony are acting more like a dominant corporation than Sony is, just expecting people to leave their 3rd party games exclusive.

 

Like I said, it's easier to port from PS3 to other consoles, which in the long run saves time and money. Why do you think EA, a massive gaming company is beginning to do this?

 

 

Ummm...because of Sony sales with EA? Especially with sports last gen. It's not easier to port from the PS3. A PS3 games timeline of creation is more expensive and time consuming. If it was made on the 360 for a similar HD experience it would cost less and not take half the time to make.

 

A quick search (of the net) seems to indicate most developers/tech sites are of the opinion that developing for the PS3 then porting to 360 is overall easier and produces more even results on both platforms than developing for the 360 then porting to the PS3 (of which as you point out there are numerous examples of how even the results can be).

You're talking about exclusive development.  The 360 would appear easier to develop for, but porting code from it to the PS3 is tougher (and produces more uneven results) than porting from the PS3 to the 360.  The tech elements went over my head but the summary would be the PS3 is so fussy to develop for you end up with code that is very clean and easy to port (taking advantage of better 360 SDK).

 

 



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

Commando on 18 November 2008
Dallinor said:
I think you need to purchase a Wii, not a 360. It's selling even more software then the 360.

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 Um actually the 360 is selling more software lately than the Wii.

 

Or did I miss the joke?



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