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EPP on 12 November 2008

Yeah, I like the EU. It's still far from beeing perfect, but it definately is a model for the future.

Regarding turkey, the problem with it isn't really the islam. It's not like it was some kind of islamistic country ( the goverment is secular). There are just standards that do not match ours yet. Letting any more countrys join whose infrastructure isn't good enough will only hurt the whole EU. Last but not least, turkey still doesn't recognize cyprus which is a EU member.

There are more points, but generally these 2 are the biggest ones.



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SamuelRSmith on 12 November 2008
seantheamazing said:
O my god makes me sick, you have to be kidding me. The only reason why people did this is so they can get more power. Not only that but its an attack on every nations national soverignty.

Ill give you an example, You have a country like Latvia that will end up paying to clean the beaches in Britain. Not to mention half of your reasons are flawed.

They donate twice as much in foriegn aid? But that doesnt matter, the numebr would still be the same if they are not unionized.

 

 I didn't write this list. Everyone's entitled to their opinions, but you seem to be buying into right-wing media far too much. Let me guess, Daily Mail? The Sun? Sky News? Come on, which is it.

90% chance that it's owned by Rupert Murdoch, who happens to be very anti-EU.



Jackson50 on 12 November 2008
EPP said:
Yeah, I like the EU. It's still far from beeing perfect, but it definately is a model for the future.

Regarding turkey, the problem with it isn't really the islam. It's not like it was some kind of islamistic country ( the goverment is secular). There are just standards that do not match ours yet. Letting any more countrys join whose infrastructure isn't good enough will only hurt the whole EU. Last but not least, turkey still doesn't recognize cyprus which is a EU member.

There are more points, but generally these 2 are the biggest ones.

The status of Cyprus certainly is an issue. The main issue, as I posited in an earlier post, is the role of the Turkish military. The EU will not admit a state that possesses a military which constantly meddles in the nation's political affairs.

 



Tispower1 on 12 November 2008
SamuelRSmith said:
seantheamazing said:
O my god makes me sick, you have to be kidding me. The only reason why people did this is so they can get more power. Not only that but its an attack on every nations national soverignty.

Ill give you an example, You have a country like Latvia that will end up paying to clean the beaches in Britain. Not to mention half of your reasons are flawed.

They donate twice as much in foriegn aid? But that doesnt matter, the numebr would still be the same if they are not unionized.

 

 I didn't write this list. Everyone's entitled to their opinions, but you seem to be buying into right-wing media far too much. Let me guess, Daily Mail? The Sun? Sky News? Come on, which is it.

90% chance that it's owned by Rupert Murdoch, who happens to be very anti-EU.

I'm pretty sure they Daily Mail isn't owned by Murdoch, but the Times is. But yes, that seems to be tje typical viewpoint of many a Brit, however, I'm happy the support for the SNP has decreased, because obviously Scotland can cope on it's own, when the Royal Bank of Scotland and the Halifax Bank of Scotland are bailed out by the Bank of England

 



EPP on 12 November 2008
Jackson50 said:
EPP said:
Yeah, I like the EU. It's still far from beeing perfect, but it definately is a model for the future.

Regarding turkey, the problem with it isn't really the islam. It's not like it was some kind of islamistic country ( the goverment is secular). There are just standards that do not match ours yet. Letting any more countrys join whose infrastructure isn't good enough will only hurt the whole EU. Last but not least, turkey still doesn't recognize cyprus which is a EU member.

There are more points, but generally these 2 are the biggest ones.

The status of Cyprus certainly is an issue. The main issue, as I posited in an earlier post, is the role of the Turkish military. The EU will not admit a state that possesses a military which constantly meddles in the nation's political affairs.

 

Yeah, true. The goverment isn't very stable, the military  made several coups in the past.

 

Wanna bet that Erdogan will be pwned as well? :P

 



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Jackson50 on 12 November 2008
EPP said:
Jackson50 said:The status of Cyprus certainly is an issue. The main issue, as I posited in an earlier post, is the role of the Turkish military. The EU will not admit a state that possesses a military which constantly meddles in the nation's political affairs.

Yeah, true. The goverment isn't very stable, the military  made several coups in the past.

Wanna bet that Erdogan will be pwned as well? :P

Well, the Constitutional Court did not ban the AKP and Erdogan because they have been instituting certain reforms-some of which are reforms requested by the EU. The Court, however, admitted that the AKP is the central location of anti-secular activities. Depending on how the AKP governs, I could see anything happening. Turkey is currently in an interesting situation.

 



Esmoreit on 12 November 2008

51: The Netherlands



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seantheamazing on 12 November 2008
SamuelRSmith said:
seantheamazing said:
O my god makes me sick, you have to be kidding me. The only reason why people did this is so they can get more power. Not only that but its an attack on every nations national soverignty.

Ill give you an example, You have a country like Latvia that will end up paying to clean the beaches in Britain. Not to mention half of your reasons are flawed.

They donate twice as much in foriegn aid? But that doesnt matter, the numebr would still be the same if they are not unionized.

 

 I didn't write this list. Everyone's entitled to their opinions, but you seem to be buying into right-wing media far too much. Let me guess, Daily Mail? The Sun? Sky News? Come on, which is it.

90% chance that it's owned by Rupert Murdoch, who happens to be very anti-EU.

Naw, just an AM\merican Libertarian. And i cant tell you how pissed I will be if there is a North American Union.

 



FaRmLaNd on 12 November 2008

Well my country has deserts larger then some european nations rofl. So :P

In a more serious note, the EU is very much a needed institution. I'm glad it exists. I agree with pretty much all of the list.



toastboy44562 on 12 November 2008

I've been to Europe...the people are really friendly