Baldurs Gate is one of the greatest RPG's ever, i dont know how can you not count it as RPG?

This is your first warning:  there was absolutely no need for that comment.  Do it again and you're banned.

I feel he was just joking around there, chief.

I read your review about the game, and i noticed two things inmediatly

1. You say you hate Akira Toriyama's designs because you hate Dragon Ball, but Chrono Trigger is in your list of RPGs and that's another game with designs by Toriyama...

2. It seems that you never played a Dragon Quest game and this was your first one, because it was brought to your attention because some review... I recommend you to play the other ones to see if there's one you like...

Now, i respect your opinion about hating the game, but to say that it should be one of the worst rated because you hate it??? (while a whole army loved it, in fact it was the 1st DQ game to have so much love outside of Japan), hey, i don't like Halo but i don't say that it should be one of the worst rated...

1) Yeah, I know. To keep quoting myself:

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=1392910

"The other Toriyama game I played is Chrono Trigger, I guess the design didn't bother me much there since, well, it's mostly sprite based"

And besides, I have to admit that the design in CT is one of Toriyama's best...that's not saying much, but it's bearable enough to not bother me

2) Sorry, but after this game, I'll never, ever, play another DQ. I've learned my lesson, I'm not making the same mistake twice. Plus, now that I'm a bit more informed, I've read that most DQ have a pretty similar battle system and don't have a good story, so I'm not playing a game similar to VIII again. So you can rest easy that I won't be bitching about how horrible is DQIX when it comes out.

As for the rating part, it's a casual comment, it shouldn't be taken serious. But I'd love to see review sites giving ratings that are identical to my tastes (for example, I'd love to see Suikoden II with the 10/10 that for me deserves in every site). That way there wouldn't be overrated or underrated games for me. They don't, sadly. The only thing that's possible is to comment how much you disagree with X review

Agreed about DQVIII being overrated.  The thing I don't get is that DQVIII gets away with AAA scores from critics yet another turn based RPG like Lost Odyssey gets praised by some but has some complains with a few critics downright bashing the game.  Explain that to me.  I must add that LO has it's flaws but it is a gem if you look past them.

To add to the litany of complaints about this list...

* I am a HUGE Diablo fan, but IT IS NOT AN RPG.

* Where is Witcher?

* Although Zelda is more RPG than Diablo (barely) and is certainly the best action RPG IMHO, it does not belong here.

* For the record, ALttP > OoT

* Final Fantasy VII? Really? So the downward turning point of the entire line is number 1, and the gaudy extention of its failed path (FFXII) are the only 2 FF's on the list?

NOT EVERY GAME THAT HAS MYTHICAL OR MYSTICAL ELEMENTS IS AN RPG! There actually has to be ROLE PLAYING. Why is this list even here, and does anybody really know what an RPG actually is anymore?

To that end, WoW trumps any other game here (though I don't even play it) just because of the sheer amount of ROLE PLAYING you can actually do.

I am sure that most if not all of my points are redundant, so my apologies.

I don't consider MMOs to be the same as RPGs (as this list did).

I also don't think that FF-VII is better than CT. That is definitely a minority report opinion.

Mike from Morgantown

Thanks to all who post in my thread, this is my most succesful thread EVER!!!!!

No Personas before Persona 3, no Panzer Dragoon Saga, not to mention the millions of other things wrong with this list.