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TheSource said:

Because no videogame company knows how many units actual gamers bought.

Look at Vgcharts numbers for the same week for Wii, 360, PS3 - the numbers are all below shipped numbers, because shipped numbers are the maximum that can be sold.

The faster the console sells to actual gamers the more shipments stores order, because they get a small cut of money on selling the system.  That is why Wii sales are so close to shipment numbers - since the sales volume is great and demand is so high shipments remain similar, but slightly higher than sell through.

 


So basically you are saying The Source that an enthusiast website knows more so then the company that manufactures and sells a product exactly what it's sales numbers are?

 I'm calling shenanigans.



 


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jjseth said:
TheSource said:

Because no videogame company knows how many units actual gamers bought.

Look at Vgcharts numbers for the same week for Wii, 360, PS3 - the numbers are all below shipped numbers, because shipped numbers are the maximum that can be sold.

The faster the console sells to actual gamers the more shipments stores order, because they get a small cut of money on selling the system. That is why Wii sales are so close to shipment numbers - since the sales volume is great and demand is so high shipments remain similar, but slightly higher than sell through.

 


So basically you are saying The Source that an enthusiast website knows more so then the company that manufactures and sells a product exactly what it's sales numbers are?

I'm calling shenanigans.


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Sony doesn't give a damn about sell through to customers.  No company in this industry reports that.

Take a look at Sony's statement for yourself before you say I'm misleading you. http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/07q1_eleki.pdf

Sell through to gamers is always less than shipped totals.

PS3 is at ~ 1.5 million sell through by NPD in the USA & Canada.  PS3 is at roughly 1.0 million Japan.  PS3 is at roughly 1.15 million by chart track for Europe/Others.  Vgchartz data is more current so PS3 is slightly higher.

Again, sell through is not the 4.28 million Sony has shipped to retailers.



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NJ5 said:
jjseth said:
TheSource said:

Because no videogame company knows how many units actual gamers bought.

Look at Vgcharts numbers for the same week for Wii, 360, PS3 - the numbers are all below shipped numbers, because shipped numbers are the maximum that can be sold.

The faster the console sells to actual gamers the more shipments stores order, because they get a small cut of money on selling the system. That is why Wii sales are so close to shipment numbers - since the sales volume is great and demand is so high shipments remain similar, but slightly higher than sell through.

 


So basically you are saying The Source that an enthusiast website knows more so then the company that manufactures and sells a product exactly what it's sales numbers are?

I'm calling shenanigans.


Please read all the other posts in this thread and forum until you understand. If you can't understand, please never post in this forum again. Bart Simpson has learned, you can learn too!

 

Basicly they did sell 5.5 million at march, they sold it to the stores. Terefore they did sell it but, this stie records those ps3's that people bought basicly near 4 million.

 



 

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TheSource said:

Read Sony's financial statement guys.  It says that Sony is now reporting units sold.  The 5.5 million unit total came when Sony was saying how many PS3s were made to try to explain their huge loss in the gaming division, while also trying to meet their shipment goal of 6 million.  The same report also says Sony had only sold 3.57 million units through March.

Doesn't it seem odd to you that only 4.28 million PS3s were sold to retailers through June 30 if 5.5 million were sold on March 31?  It is a different system now.

5.5 million were made.  Of those, 3.6 million made it to retail.  Now, 3 months later, another 700,000 units made it to retail. 

Again, don't trust an article that can't add 3.57 + .71

I don't think the 5.5 million needs to be changed - for all we know Sony hasn't made a PS3 since March 31.  I mean they are trying to get rid of the current model of PS3 for the new model - so that number is accurate.

Sony is not lying here.  They changed their system because Sony needed people to realize they are still selling units even though they likely stopped making new 60 gig units - which would have made it seem as if PS3 has stopped selling - which it obviously has not.


That really should explain it. 



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TheSource said:
TheSource said:

Read Sony's financial statement guys. It says that Sony is now reporting units sold. The 5.5 million unit total came when Sony was saying how many PS3s were made to try to explain their huge loss in the gaming division, while also trying to meet their shipment goal of 6 million. The same report also says Sony had only sold 3.57 million units through March.

Doesn't it seem odd to you that only 4.28 million PS3s were sold to retailers through June 30 if 5.5 million were sold on March 31? It is a different system now.

5.5 million were made. Of those, 3.6 million made it to retail. Now, 3 months later, another 700,000 units made it to retail.

Again, don't trust an article that can't add 3.57 + .71

I don't think the 5.5 million needs to be changed - for all we know Sony hasn't made a PS3 since March 31. I mean they are trying to get rid of the current model of PS3 for the new model - so that number is accurate.

Sony is not lying here. They changed their system because Sony needed people to realize they are still selling units even though they likely stopped making new 60 gig units - which would have made it seem as if PS3 has stopped selling - which it obviously has not.


That really should explain it.


Just one correction - we actually know how many PS3 they produced in 2007 Q1. 1.11 million is the number (see the end of the Q1 report thread).

 



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TheSource said:
TheSource said:

Read Sony's financial statement guys. It says that Sony is now reporting units sold. The 5.5 million unit total came when Sony was saying how many PS3s were made to try to explain their huge loss in the gaming division, while also trying to meet their shipment goal of 6 million. The same report also says Sony had only sold 3.57 million units through March.

Doesn't it seem odd to you that only 4.28 million PS3s were sold to retailers through June 30 if 5.5 million were sold on March 31? It is a different system now.

5.5 million were made. Of those, 3.6 million made it to retail. Now, 3 months later, another 700,000 units made it to retail.

Again, don't trust an article that can't add 3.57 + .71

I don't think the 5.5 million needs to be changed - for all we know Sony hasn't made a PS3 since March 31. I mean they are trying to get rid of the current model of PS3 for the new model - so that number is accurate.

Sony is not lying here. They changed their system because Sony needed people to realize they are still selling units even though they likely stopped making new 60 gig units - which would have made it seem as if PS3 has stopped selling - which it obviously has not.


That really should explain it.


 This really should explain it.



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Your Wii tainted math hurts my brain as it makes no sense to a normal college educated human being.

The Source, you said yourself that "No video game company knows what it actually has sold to customers" However, you and vgchartz which isn't much more then a glorified Nintendo fanboy's hangout to feel good about how great the Wii is selling is accurate, knows within a small margin of error exactly what the sales are?

According to this site I think the 360 has been around the same sales numbers for the past 4 months (No more then maybe 500k difference from month to month it seems). Prove to me and provide me with information that what you say is correct and why I should not believe financial statements from a major corporation? And don't bring up Enron, not every company is that shady, esepecially when it comes to retail sales.



 


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jjseth said:
Your Wii tainted math hurts my brain as it makes no sense to a normal college educated human being.

The Source, you said yourself that "No video game company knows what it actually has sold to customers" However, you and vgchartz which isn't much more then a glorified Nintendo fanboy's hangout to feel good about how great the Wii is selling is accurate, knows within a small margin of error exactly what the sales are?


So all the site is a glorified Nintendo fanboy's hangout now ? Nice.



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jjseth said:
Your Wii tainted math hurts my brain as it makes no sense to a normal college educated human being.

The Source, you said yourself that "No video game company knows what it actually has sold to customers" However, you and vgchartz which isn't much more then a glorified Nintendo fanboy's hangout to feel good about how great the Wii is selling is accurate, knows within a small margin of error exactly what the sales are?

According to this site I think the 360 has been around the same sales numbers for the past 4 months (No more then maybe 500k difference from month to month it seems). Prove to me and provide me with information that what you say is correct and why I should not believe financial statements from a major corporation? And don't bring up Enron, not every company is that shady, esepecially when it comes to retail sales.


You're an idiot. If you don't have any faith/interest in this website's numbers, what are you doing here?

And you're either stupid or trolling if you didn't YET understand that noone is telling you not to believe Sony's financial statement.

 



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