Also, may i ask... why are you against partial birth abortion?

That's my point. If your pro-choice you really shouldn't be antipartial birth abortion.

The other late term abortion procedures are actually more gruesome.... and late term abortions are illegal anyway except incases of the mothers health.

Don't worry. In 5 more days Obama will be elected president, and we won't have to hear about these incredibly lame and invented controversies for at least another 4 years.

And, if the Republican party finally exorcises its demons (I'm looking at you, Sara Palin, and the religious right), maybe they will see a return to decency and principled government, and run honorable campaigns henceforth!

But I'm not holdin my breath.

Late term abortion is illegal?

i thought in CA. it is legal.  i could be wrong.

Even if it isn't illegal in some places outside of the mothers health... the partial birth abortion is like... the least gruesome option available... and the safest.

For Hussein it was, for Bin Laden it probably is, however, for me, Hamas, millions of Palestinian people living around the world it isn't just an excuse to "hate" Israel.

Furthermore, the Arab nations have already put forth a perfectly good plan where Israel would have complete normal relations with all Arab nations.

If Israel would just do what's right and move back to the 1967 borders only the most radical idiots would remain and they are already at odds with them and US so, really no difference there. However, Israel would be recognized the the rest of the world and be able to have a much needed normalization with its own region including the great benefits of trade.

Granted Jerusalem and the area surrounding it is always going to be the point of contention. I would bet that if Israel moved out of the last part of Lebenon (Shabah Farms), Golah Heights of Syria, and all of W. Bank including E. Jerusalem (they could probably keep the two largest military outposts (settlements) North and South of E. Jerusalem, then Palestinians would give up the legitimate 'Right of return' and then all Arab Nations would agree to full peace and relations.

In fact, that is almost exactly what Arabs offered years ago. But, Israel rejected.

I agree an end to Arab-Israeli conflict, and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in particular, is both desirable and necessary for stability in the Middle East. I believe the Arab Peace Initiative, which I believe is what Super was referring to, is a reasonable agreement for both sides. I do, however, sympathize with Israel's reservations.

The only reason we backed Israel before, and the only reason why we back them now is because with us on their side, other middle eastern countries won't gang up on them (again) and then wind up get themselves nuked to back to the days of Saladin. (And of course they were an ally in the cold war.)

If that happens, there's no oil production, WWIII and everybody else gets bombed back to their respective stereotypical era in the past.

Or we stop using oil, the Middle East goes broke and we are in the same situation.

Jackson 50 is right, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a fun distraction for everyone around the world.  Arab countries can arm palestinians and bomb a minimal number of  Israelis.  Israelis can shoot at and bomb the muslim Palestinians that the Arabs mistreated themselves and disliked, until someone else was picking on them.  And no one important dies.

I think the world can come past that type of thinking.  War isn't necessary.  There's plenty for every one to eat.  In a few years their will be plenty of energy for everyone too.  There's plenty of space.  Free flow of information is changing minds all over the place because most of us aren't stupid, little and hateful reading into all types of propaganda.  Or ruin people's lives.

My imitation of Republicans:

"Let's attack this guy with lies."

(Something is revealed that is true about their candidate or their associate, that happens to be true - like McCain funded Khalidi's work (which I am proud of by the way, or Joe the Plumber is really a relative of Charles Keating.)

"How dare you attack this poor man?  Woe, is us.  Always the targets"

Dang, dude ... McCain donated over $400K to the dude's group. And check out how this McShame foolio gets OWN3D.

I told you all Obama is a terrorist

I've been thinking about the whole Khalidi thing.  McCain was waiting to talk about a 6 month old story as it's October surprise, that's pretty obvious.  But why did he think it would work?  Because he doesn't realize that this is the information age, where we can find out so quickly that, Obama says Khalidi is a great guy he never agrees with, while McCain says he a terrorist who he gives money to.

I didn't buy the out of touch argument, but I really see it now.