HappySqurriel said:
If that is all that is on the tape, why won't they release it or let a variety of people view the tape? There is a reason why someone doesn't want that tape viewed, it could be as simple as someone is picking their nose or it could be as damaging as Barack Obama saying things that would cost him his election ...
Personally, I suspect that Barack Obama made comments that are (in many ways) like his "Religion and Guns" comment in that he made a comment specifically designed to please the crowd; these could be fairly benign comments that just demonstrate (like most politicians) he is willing to say just about anything to get elected.
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Or it could be that it's not a conspiracy at all, and the LA Times is telling the truth... that they, the ones who broke this story in the first place, can't release the tape because in order for them to see it they had to sign a non-disclosure agreement. Maybe that NDA is because of what somebody else says or who was present, who didn't want to make the news.
Oh, that "Religion and guns" comment is right. It was worded poorly but right. Like I said in that other thread, I'm glad we, as Americans, are airing this all out. We get to see the elitists and the condescending, the inspiring and the fear mongering. I would rather vote for the elitists. I'd LOVE to go hunting with Bush, have a beer, and talk about his policy. (Cheney, not so much the hunting. But I think Cheney is a genius, evil, but a genius and I'd want to talk to him too.)
The "Spreading the wealth" comment was not to a crowd, that was to somebody who was openly challenging his position. That's not saying what he needs to say to get elected, that's standing your ground when someone is challenging you on tax policy and you say to his face, "You're gonna be paying more taxes because you can (paraphrased)".
And if you want to pick on a candidate for saying anything to get elected, I think you are talking about the wrong candidate. McCain has abandoned the principles that made him so popular in the first place.
BTW, I am jewish, I hate how DC politicians pander to Israel. Israel can take care of itself. We'd be better off not being such a close ally and having many more people less eager to kill Americans (and Israelis, because of the biggest fear in ME countries is that we are working together to control and influence the middle east). You know a big segment in Jews in Israel are against the occupations. The Israeli government and Israeli NGO's (like Gush Emunim Underground, Kahane Chai) have commited horrific acts on the Palestinian people - like expelling them from their homes and forcing them to live in poverty gor two generations now.
Why don't you look at some videos on you tube about Palestinian daily life, and then respond with the normal "Patriotic American" response that they choose to live that way, and ignore the fact that the Israelis steal land and the army kills children. A Palestinian terrorist straps a bomb to themself, the Israeli Army kills 20 times more random civilians, mostly kids.
We do it to Iraqi, Syrian, Pakistani and Afghani kids when our smart bombs miss... oops.
It's okay to not love your country when it commits evil abroad and at home. It's okay to want to vote for a new direction. It's okay to decide to volunteer to feed the hungry instead of bombing villages. It's okay to want to spend money on education, infrastructure, and healthcare instead of war.
No. It's not just okay. It's better.
A Scholar said: "Killing civilians is a war crime. It’s a violation of international law. They are not soldiers. They’re civilians, they’re unarmed. The ones who are armed, the ones who are soldiers, the ones who are in occupation, that's different. That's resistance." -- Rashid Khalidi... who never was a member or spokesperson for the PLO.
A republican once said: (to the tune of the Beach Boys' Barbara Ann) "Bomb, bomb, bomb. Bomb, bomb, Iran." John McCain -- who supposedly hates war and knows so much about international relations.
Witchhunts, McCarthyism, and now McCainism. Will this shit ever stop?
