The Wii is the most divisive console ever.
Blood will be spilled over this thing. It's ridiculous.
Current systems owned: Wii, 360. I'll get a PS3 when hell freezes over!... or when the price drops to a reasonable level. Whichever comes first.
The Wii is the most divisive console ever.
Blood will be spilled over this thing. It's ridiculous.
Current systems owned: Wii, 360. I'll get a PS3 when hell freezes over!... or when the price drops to a reasonable level. Whichever comes first.
@naznatips,
"FOR THE LAST TIME, MAKE A TOPIC ABOUT THIS IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS IT. This is like me going into an announcement about a PS3 game and picking a random Wii game and saying "But this is better" (which sadly does happen on this forum). I'll be happy to get into a discussion with you about the quality of games coming out this generation, but if you aren't sure enough of your argument to even make a topic about it why should anyone waste their time discussing it with you? "
==> 1/ It is not about BETTER or NOT BETTER
It is about ANTICIPATED OR NOT
It does not implicatre the quality of the games themself.
2/ I dont want to create thread for all the minor news that appear all the time on internet. I think there is enought thread opened on the forum.
Whatever, sorry, I read ur post too late.
I think the thread is over too.
But, sincerely, it is simple to understand why it goes in a flamewar :
"The Wii third party game explosion has begun!"
The title itselft was a flamewar launcher ....
Time to Work !
come on ps3owner.. get a fucking life man.. does sony pay you to troll the site.. it makes no sense.. if you love a system buy it and shut the fuck up and stop being such a fanboy
Legend11 said:
It's about as valid as PS3 fans who say their system will take off next year (as in nobody knows for sure and anyone who claims otherwise is just guessing and hoping). |
No, these are quite different Legend. They do share one similarity: they both predict the future. It's just that one prediction relies both on historical and empirical data, and another relies on wishful thinking.
Saying the PS3 will pick up next year is just.. a hunch. Hey, this is what I believe will happen! It goes against the facts (no system has ever seen a major turnaround 1.5+ years in to its lifespan) and the developmental focus, but that's what I believe!
By contrast, we have very solid reason to believe that developmental focus is shifting to the Wii. First, because every leading platform in the history of gaming has seen the most development, compared to its generational competitors; and more importantly, because most if not all major publishers (EA, THQ, Take 2, Capcom, Sega, Namco-Bandai, Activision, and Ubisoft, among others) have specifically stated that they are moving their focus towards the Wii. Now, we see the first wave of third party games becoming available on the system -- not surprisingly, the ones produced the most quickly are the least polished.
A better analogy would be this: let's say you and I are both standing outside one day. The sky becomes very dark, the humidity raises to 99 percent, and we hear thunder in the distance. I claim it's going to rain. You claim that it won't. Sure, both are predictions of the future, but one is based on logic and evidence, and another is not. Similarly, the notion that the Wii will continue to see increased developmental support is based on both empirical evidence and unanimous historical data. The suggestion that the PS3 will pick up speed later is not.
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This topic started by listing the quantity of games, then it got spun around to talk about the quality. The PS2 was always getting a high quantity of games, but when did the higher quality titles come out? Before it had been released for a year? Or after the first 1-2 years?
Bodhesatva said:
No, these are quite different Legend. They do share one similarity: they both predict the future. It's just that one prediction relies both on historical and empirical data, and another relies on wishful thinking. Saying the PS3 will pick up next year is just.. a hunch. Hey, this is what I believe will happen! It goes against the facts (no system has ever seen a major turnaround 1.5+ years in to its lifespan) and the developmental focus, but that's what I believe! By contrast, we have very solid reason to believe that developmental focus is shifting to the Wii. First, because every leading platform in the history of gaming has seen the most development, compared to its generational competitors; and more importantly, because most if not all major publishers (EA, THQ, Take 2, Capcom, Sega, Namco-Bandai, Activision, and Ubisoft, among others) have specifically stated that they are moving their focus towards the Wii. Now, we see the first wave of third party games becoming available on the system -- not surprisingly, the ones produced the most quickly are the least polished. A better analogy would be this: let's say you and I are both standing outside one day. The sky becomes very dark, the humidity raises to 99 percent, and we hear thunder in the distance. I claim it's going to rain. You claim that it won't. Sure, both are predictions of the future, but one is based on logic and evidence, and another is not. Similarly, the notion that the Wii will continue to see increased developmental support is based on both empirical evidence and unanimous historical data. The suggestion that the PS3 will pick up speed later is not. |
They are both guessing and hoping dispite one relying on historical and empirical data which may or may not play out the same way again. Take the N64 for example, based on the historical and empirical data at the time it should have dominated like the SNES and NES did which wasn't the case. In the end nobody knows how it's going to play out and it all comes down to guessing, educated guesses sometimes, but that doesn't change the fact.
ceres said:
Windbane likes living in an imaginary world of his own what if scenarios. He also still believes the PS3 has 4d graphics because Sony said so. |
It was an EGM rumor and I stand by my statement. PS2 having a controller similar to the wiimote would not cost much. Adding in a Cell processor would cost quite a bit. I wish Nintendo had done it. The rumor is a $99 PS2 with a wiimote-like device. Sounds like a great idea to me.
ceres, you can spout whatever nonsense that you want to but I've never said anything about 4D or believing everything Sony says. But hey, way to add nothing to the conversation except a baseless attack.
PS3owner said: I never read the 4 pages of stuff so sorry if this has already been said, almost all the games on the wii list are just crap games that are on the DS too. The 360/PS3 list is 100x better, plus all the games that are just coming to the true next gen systems. |
I agree with your points, except perhaps 100x better is a bit much. It would help if you read the other pages, however.
Legend11 said:
They are both guessing and hoping dispite one relying on historical and empirical data which may or may not play out the same way again. Take the N64 for example, based on the historical and empirical data at the time it should have dominated like the SNES and NES did which wasn't the case. In the end nobody knows how it's going to play out and it all comes down to guessing, educated guesses sometimes, but that doesn't change the fact. |
I completely agree with both of you. I agree that there is certainly a lot of years of historical precedence (even recently with the DS and the PSP) that suggests it's likely that by the end of this generation the Wii will have the most 3rd party support. However, as both of you pointed out: It's still predicting the future. All you can do is use what evidence available to make the best prediction possible.
Legend11 said:
They are both guessing and hoping dispite one relying on historical and empirical data which may or may not play out the same way again. Take the N64 for example, based on the historical and empirical data at the time it should have dominated like the SNES and NES did which wasn't the case. In the end nobody knows how it's going to play out and it all comes down to guessing, educated guesses sometimes, but that doesn't change the fact. |
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