gengka said: By the way i thought square enix said they will treat all consoles equally. exclusive and timed exclusive made for 360: SO4, the last remnant, infinite undiscovery ps3: FF13versus, FF13(japan only) hmmmm anyone thinks that its balanced?
They made that excuse when they said FFXIII was going to be on 360 in NA and PAL regions as well as PS3, they also used it to answer why the nearly finished PS3 version will be delayed no doubt for a similantious release for that.
As soon as they said that, it made way for a few thing that meant they are speaking out of their arse. Last Remnant delay for PS3 has no excuse, and SO4 didn't make any sense (why would you release a JRPG on the worst performing console in their home nation?), Wii would have made more sense.
The sony fanboys who are saying stuff like "Meh, it doesn't matter that its multiplat" You are clearly in denail, The fact that this is around the 200th post proves that Tekken 6 going multiplat really is a BIG DEAL
If ace combat 6 came to ps3 do you think it would even hit 20 posts?
Let alone 200+
This is a big deal on no amount of trying to sugar coat this will deny that fact
FF XIII and Tekken 6 are now coming to XBox 360, no longer PS3 exclusives. How many more "PS3 exclusives" will be coming also to The XBox 360?
GT 5 and Kill Zone 2 have both taken 5 years to develop and there development budgets are expected to be close to 70 million dollars for each game. Porting them to XBox 360 and make some more money would be a great idea.
To make a return on investment KZ2 and GT 5 would have to sell a minimum of 5 million copies each.
Porting Kill Zone 2 and GT 5 to XBox 360 would be a great move and make lots of money for the game developers. Profit is the most important thing at the end of the day. The costs of game development are reaching astronomical levels in the modern era. Exclusives games will become a thing of the past.
The only way that Microsoft will get their hands on Killzone and GT is if Sony drops them. First party titles don't go. Well...we know how Sony is about dropping first party titles that aren't huge sellers so I wont say that they won't drop any of those titles in the future.
forevercloud3000 said: Geuss I was wrong about Tekken 6 staying exclusive. It still baffles me how this is even possible when Sony pays for all of Namco's arcade machines. How can they just take away an exclusivity deal again? I swear to GOD this damn game better be coming with something extra for the PS3.
This generation of gaming has pissed me off beyond belief. It makes no sense for a superior system, with more features, fair and actually better price tag, and actually does something to make games become better versions of themeselves should be being treated like this this gen. What happened to the good days when a developer would be aiming for making a perfect game and not how can I make the most money possible? This generation has been one disappointment after another. -DMC 4 going MP -FFXIII going MP -Now Tekken going MP all becuz MS shells out a few bills to these developers. Sony gives them the chance to make an extraordinary game with their bluray and cell technology, yet MS keeps holding them back by stealing them away. This is obviously MS's plan. They keep buying off Sony exclusives to hinder the PS3 from ever reaching full potential. THis must have been the reason MS closed down all those 1st party studios, so they can shell out more cash for Sony exclusives. Every gen Sony tries to step up the bar on how their system can improve gaming. MS's whole goal is just how can they screw up Sony's plan. Why? Because MS has feared the inevitable ascension of Sony. Years ago Sony set out to create the ultimate entertainment hub. The PS3 is basically that dream coming to fruition, this is why MS is pulling no punches whatsoever. They will do what ever they can in their power to keep Sony from succeeding this gen becuz they fear Sony's onslaught on the PC market. To copyrighting of features in their system that are just retarded, to having random companies suing them left and right to keep them in financial troubles, to sacrificing the quality of their own product to simply get to market first.
THese companies are the worst though. SE has been the biggest let down, then Namco. These are companies with the LARGEST fanbase on Playstation and they simply abandon them for a little bit of pocket money from MS. SE has made said they wanted to be even this gen but that was a joke. SE has given MS SO4(a PS favorite) exclusive, Infinite Undiscover exclusive(even though it was mediocre), and FFXIII( a game that was the most important to Sony's ascension) as MP. Only thing PS fans get from Square is FFvXIII exclusive and the notion that we should be grateful for that. Fuck THEM! Namco gave away Katamari to 360 EXCLUSIVE and it BOMBED!!!! MS already has an exclusive fighter known as DOA which doesn't hold a candle to Tekken, and MS STILL gets Tekken. Have these companies no shame? Yes, these companies are out to make a profit but at what cost? The fanbase that made them what they are? The company that helped them make it in the first place? The quality of the game? The PS3 and 360 are only 5 million apart in sales, that is not enough to justify the spin of the market in present. The only answer is the good ol MS bank.
Yes, I take this kind of stuff personally and very seriously. I am a Game developer in the making and the thought of what this gaming gen has come sickens me. When I finally get to putting my games and gaming ideas out there I will never sell out for money. For me it is not about that. I am all about making the best game possible, making a game that people can enjoy, while utilizing all the resources at hand. I want to make a piece of art, and that cannot be done by spreading the paint(thin) thin so it covers more canvas(userbase). I have always believed in the notion you create a quality product and the fans will come to you. Hense the reason I love the Sony PS3.
Uhg! I am out.....
Sony isn't as loyal of a company as you would like to think. Due to Sony's history I can understand by the history of quality games I can grant you this thought. Their care for what you want is truthfully an illusion and the same can be said for MS. Sony couldn't have given a damn about the gaming industry if it wasn't for Kutagari. At first they laughed at him. They were losing to the electronics war to their top competitors. Kutagari saved their asses imploring Sony to focus on videogames. Being that Sony was a still a powerful corporation even though they were falling behind in the electronics war, the first Playstation did very well using a CD format and and the PS2 did even better with DVD. The sales of both systems strengthened Sony. They can thank Kutagari for saving their asses when they laughed in his face.
You can be as pissed as you want, but Sony had it coming. They were acting like the big bad corporation that gets cocky by taking mass market share. You also like to point out that Sony was the only one who made a quality system. Microsoft started that trend by putting out and extremely powerful system for its gen. This is hypocrisy. Microsoft made it clear that their only goal this gen was to hold Sony back this gen. They told Nintendo congratulations and that this gen is theirs for sure. This is something that Sony is far too proud to do. I can't stand what the corporate status of gaming has done to them, but this gen Sony was far too cocky and Karma came to bite them in the ass. Sony isn't monopolizing any market, so they have no reason at all to be cocky. Microsoft has. I don't like both corporations on a moral level, but it doesn't mean I won't buy anything from them. Thats just stupid. It's all business. You know very well that Sony didn't fight for their 3rd party games. Sony tends to be so proud that they block out everything that made them big or whatever succeeded on their system.
It's not just because Microsoft has money, but it's also because of the fact that a larger portion of their installed base actually buys games compared to Sony. Have you ever thought that Namco thought twice after Soul Calibur IV sold better on the 360 than the PS3? Hmmm...all that loyalty when you should understand the good and the bad side of business. Theres very little emotion that you should put in business...especially today. I learned this great lesson in highschool. The childhood days of gaming are over. I'm sorry to say this...but it's over. It's about corporate take overs rather than the love of gaming. We have to take what few good games are left as consumers.
Don't be full of shit. Get a grip man
First of all nintendo started all this by fucking over sony. That is why sony went into the "console wars"
Second of all microsoft has no reason to be cocky because they have monopoly on a market. Thats bullshit. We need to work at getting more OS widely recognised. This with windows ? it's a bad thing.
Third. It's obvious you walk around in a ignorance if your own, but soul calibur was never a playstation brand game to begin with. Soul edge was.
And Fourth. The playstation has a higher attach rate per console than the 360.
Finally...
Word ain't enough.
Sony didn't go into console wars because Nintendo fucked them over. When they and Nintendo were working on the CD project Sony tried to make the larger sum of the profit on a system that was Nintendo's contractually (You would too if you are a business trying to make profit). Nintendo went their own way. Sony hadn't even thought about making a videogame system and they were losing to their competition. Kutagari saved their asses by making a proposition for a videogame system and they all laughed in his face! Kutagari had become a big fan of gaming because of his kids and realized that there is a market in this. Before Kutagari gave that proposition Sony looked down on the videogame market unless they were to make a sure profit off of formatting.
Does Microsoft look like they are being cocky right now? Please. You haven't seen cocky from Microsoft. If you see them cocky you will hate them until kingdom comes. They aren't cocky right now. They were humble enough to congratulate Nintendo on a good job this gen. They have a plan for this gen. It's funny how you can have a double standard for the monopolistic ways of Microsoft when Sony aspires to do the exact same thing.
I could give two shits about what you think is ignorance about me. I'm buying Soul Calibur IV on the PS3 and the same goes for the FF series. I pick and choose between the PS3 and the 360 based on strength. PS3 fanboys cannot be backed up because they are hypocrites.
The PS3 has a higher attach rate than the PS3 because the PS3 had more bundles!!!This is obvious and you trying to point this out to me is stupidity. Keep the attach rate, because what really counts is how involved the installed base is and Xbox 360 has the win there. This is why they outsold the PS3 with GTA IV and Soul Calibur IV. GET OVER IT!!! I'm not a Microsoft nor a Sony fan. I've given up the emotional ties to them a while ago. I suggest you realize that we are in dark times where the corporate interest is the only thing that matters and the people come second.
It's cool man I get a bit cranky this late. No hard feelings tho : )
No hard feelings at all. I'm not loyal to the 360, but PS3 loyalists are just making it hard for me to defend them. PS2 gen was easy, because when the Xbox fanboys jumped on the PS2 for Graphics over gameplay, they ate their words. I have no attachment to Microsoft or Sony. They are corporate assholes. I just buy their products because I love gaming. PERIOD. No hard feelings at all and I hope we can start over man.
It's cool man I get a bit cranky this late. No hard feelings tho : )
No hard feelings at all. I'm not loyal to the 360, but PS3 loyalists are just making it hard for me to defend them. PS2 gen was easy, because when the Xbox fanboys jumped on the PS2 for Graphics over gameplay, they ate their words. I have no attachment to Microsoft or Sony. They are corporate assholes. I just buy their products because I love gaming. PERIOD. No hard feelings at all and I hope we can start over man.
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