They suck so much. I went to EBGames last Tuesday and bought Space Channel 5 Special Edition for the PS2, and Condemned 1 and 2 used for the 360 (my old copy of Condemned disappeared). I bought the copies to the register. I engaged in conversation with the clerk about how I was glad to find the games in such condition (Original Cases and Instructions). He bagged them up and I was on my way. I get home, and Condemned 1 is an a PS2 case with no box art. The top right corner said MX Unleashed. Condemned 2 was in a blockbuster video box. No instructions, and the case was black and not green! Why in the fuck did the clerk do that? What did he have to gain?

I drove back, and told the guy "I don't want to be THAT customer, but can I get the case I brought up here? He swapped out Condemned 1 but I still have the shitty fake Condemned 2 case. Crazy!

I think Wal-Mart and other superstores are more unbiased and give people what they really want.

I'm guessing that they get a lot more copies of disc than they do of boxes and manuals.  So by just giving you the disc with crappy boxes, they can only give the boxes/manuals to the people that complain/care.

"What lesson can we learn from this story? Wii and DS are selling while X360 and PS3 are fighting each others for the crumbs. :P"

That was nessesary but rather a cheap shot to conclude something that is, not really that true, because the playstation brand as a whole appeals to the casual market.

While the wii may be outselling the xbox 360 and the ps3, in no way does this mean that if the ps3 was priced at the same price, things would look like they do now. Not at all, but from what you write, atleast in the way you do, it seems like the interest in other consoles is not there, so while you could have been the bigger man, you simply decided to go down to the same level as the sales man who was spurting nonsense.

The second you mention the "Playstation Brand" you really lost a lot of credibility ... If you put the Nintendo Wii and Nintendo DS together and the XBox 360 with Windows PCs both Nintendo and Microsoft have huge (and trusted) brands that appeal to core and casual gamers.

You can play the "What if" game all you want and think about how the PS3 would be the dominant console had Sony sold it at a price more people were willing to pay for a console, but this doesn't change the reality of the situation ... We're two years into this generation and (because of the decisions Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft have made) the market is drastically different than it once was and there is nothing that has shown a $300 (or even $200) PS3 would be dramatically more popular than the current $400 PS3 is.

slap ! way to choose certain parts of what i wrote instead of reading it as a whole.

First of all "nintendo" isn't known by the "casuals" in general they know the wii and they might know the ds. Some do some do not. They know the wii because they've seen it on tv, have it or know someone who does. They don't really know nintendo.

The playstation brand as a gaming platform is the most welknown by all groups beside the PC. The reason this is different is because most people don't connect the ds or the wii or the gamecube. Simply because their names are so different and your regular joe won't do the research to find out that they are all made from the same company. On the other hand when you say playstation it can be any console from sony. I don't mention microsoft because i really don't know anyone who has a xbox.

But without going  into details i'll simply explain that while you picked that out, it wasn't my point with the post at all. My point was simply that he sounded awfully biased in his op and then i explained why. It had nothing to do with trying to raise a discussion of who would win if what happened. Just that he was sounding like the guy he complained about to begin with.

Nothing de-rails a thread faster than using reason and logic. How dare you rain on his fanboy rant about another fanboy rant.

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In all seriousness it amazes me how appealing alternate realities are to some kids. Is real life that crappy that you need to fill your waking hours with what-if scenarios?

OT - I do have some sympathy for employees at these stores. I was at an EB last year and had to wait in line for nearly 30minutes while some B chewed out an employee there because Sears didn't have any Wii's even though the Sears advert said they did. I was amazed that she went all the way to the other end of the mall to yell at an employee of another retailer because Sears didn't have Wii's.  Sometimes these kids take an incredible amount of abuse from A-Holes with a chip on their shoulder. While we expect good customer service, which the poster didn't get, it would help allot to try and be a good customer as well

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::shrug:: I have a few eb games or gamestop stores I go to. One is PS3 bias, a couple are Xbox 360 bias, and another one is Wii bias. When you get teenage game players as employees, they will have favorite systems, and in my experience it's pretty evenly spread.

Though I will say, I am constantly suprised about how little the employees know.

What? Did I really just read that? If you think the Playstation brand is better known than the overall name Nintendo, you have got to be smoking the good stuff. In fact, straight through the PS1's lifespan, nongamers called it and every other console "the Nintendo". This goes back from 86 and finally started seperating into Playstation, Nintendo and Xbox around 2002 or so. So all those casuals, who used to be nongamers, remember "the Nintendo" that their kids played back in the 80s and 90s.  There was no NES, SNES, N64, etc for these people, only "the Nintendo".  Now with the popularity of the Wii and DS, people have come full circle to playing "The Nintendo" again. Though most of the casuals like calling it "The Wii" better, less syllables I guess.

@ Staude

I'm with bardicverse here, I'm not sure where that uninformed statement came from. It's common for people to call all game systems 'Nintendos'.  A friend of mine still calls her PS2 a Nintendo, and I have to correct my wife half the time when she calls my Xbox 360, the Nintendo.