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Forums - Sales Discussion - Will Xbox 360 sell the most console for Christmas 2008?

Barring any moves by Sony or Nintendo to cut prices, I think 360 has a shot at #1 in NA. When people start looking for holiday season presents this year, price is going to be a major factor in how they execute their purchasing option. Even if PS3 drops $50, the entry level 360 is at $199, and can't me matched by anything other than a potential Wii drop. BRD players are now cheaper than the PS3, which might have an impact on the perceived value of getting one of those as well.



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heruamon said:
Barring any moves by Sony or Nintendo to cut prices, I think 360 has a shot at #1 in NA. When people start looking for holiday season presents this year, price is going to be a major factor in how they execute their purchasing option. Even if PS3 drops $50, the entry level 360 is at $199, and can't me matched by anything other than a potential Wii drop. BRD players are now cheaper than the PS3, which might have an impact on the perceived value of getting one of those as well.

 

Not happening. Nintendo is going to send so many Wii's to North America that it will be next to impossible for Microsoft to match. And even though the Arcade is $199, a lot of people would rather have a more souped up 360. Lowering the cost of the worst of the 3 SKU's to below the Wii will help, but it doesn't stop it from being the worst version.



The 360 has a shot at 2nd, but the wii will sell the most easily.



360 has no chance of outselling the Wii this holiday. Neither does the PS3 for that matter so I'm not even going to get into that. As things stand, 360 is going to have a difficult time beating even the PS3. The price-cuts for the system were issued a little too early to be taken full advantage of with the holiday season and we are beginning to see them fall back to relatively normal levels in America and Japan and will likely see them fall equivalently in Europe next week.

PS3 is set to completely dominate all of October with releases such as NBA 09: The Inside (NA), SOCOM: Confrontation (NA/EU/JP/AU), Eternal Sonata (NA), BioShock (NA/EU), LittleBigPlanet (NA/EU/JP/AU), and MotorStorm: Pacific Rift (NA) along with the public release of PlayStation Home while the only remotely major exclusive release for the 360 in October is Fable II (NA/EU/AU). PS3 has a big advantage by having October in the bag since it is historically when the holiday rush first begins and will give the PS3 a good head start over the 360 in November.

In November, both consoles are about evenly matched with games. 360 is getting Gears of War 2 (NA/EU/AU), Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts (NA/EU/AU), Left 4 Dead (NA/EU/AU), Naruto: The Broken Bond (NA/EU), and The Last Remnant (NA/JP) while PS3 is getting Resistance 2 (NA/EU/JP/AU), MotorStorm: Pacific Rift (EU/JP/AU), Valkyria Chronicles (NA/EU), Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm (NA/EU/JP/AU), and Way of the Samurai 3 (JP). However, PS3 does have a big edge in November due to the 160GB Uncharted bundle being released November 1st and the multitude of European bundles in the very end of October which will likely drive sales better than any individual game this month.

For December, neither console has any big exclusives currently announced with the exception of White Knight Chronicle (JP) for PS3. In light of that, this month will likely be almost exclusively decided by each individual systems' biggest selling point; (360: Price, PS3: Blu-ray). If we once again look back at last year's figures, we see that the PS3 marginally, but decisively, beat the 360 during the months of November and December and we should ask ourselves why that was. It certainly wasn't because it was cheaper, because at the time the 360's new Arcade model cost $280 while the 40GB PS3 cost $400. It also couldn't be due to a superior game lineup due to the 360's major releases of Halo 3, Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation, Mass Effect, Naruto: Rise of a Ninja and others compared to the PS3's releases of Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Gran Turismo 5: Prologue, and Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction. When we narrow out the previous two possibilities then only one remains, that being Blu-ray. Blu-ray was the key that caused the PS3 to outsell the 360 last holiday season at a time when Blu-ray was in a bitter battle with HD-DVD as the official high-definition media format. This upcoming holiday season will be the first since Blu-ray achieved that status and will likely see a significant increase in demand year over year for this holiday season because of it. As for the 360, it has the advantage of being the cheapest console on the market and being at a price-point that has historically attracted the most buyers. However, history has also shown us that with each new generation that price-point has risen and with the Wii having unparalleled success at the $250 price point for almost two years now, I seriously question the significance that the $200 price-point will have now compared to what it has had in the past. 360 is also at a disadvantage of having sold five million more units than the PS3, since by equivalency, that reduces the 360's potential market by five million buyers compared to the PS3's.

Overall it's going to be a very close race between the two, much like it was last year. Currently everything points to a PS3 victory this holiday, but with heavy marketing and possibly a Gears of War 2 bundle in NA, EU, and AU, Microsoft isn't without hope of possibly coming out on top.



It all depends on a PS3 price cut.



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Seihyouken said:

PS3 is set to completely dominate all of October with releases such as NBA 09: The Inside (NA), SOCOM: Confrontation (NA/EU/JP/AU), Eternal Sonata (NA), BioShock (NA/EU), LittleBigPlanet (NA/EU/JP/AU), and MotorStorm: Pacific Rift (NA) along with the public release of PlayStation Home while the only remotely major exclusive release for the 360 in October is Fable II (NA/EU/AU).

Microsoft isn't without hope of possibly coming out on top.

 

Eternal Sonata and Bioshock have been on the XBox 360 for a while now.

Microsoft isn't without hope of possibility?  Bold words from someone who's console is getting hammered right now.



ManusJustus said:

Seihyouken said:

PS3 is set to completely dominate all of October with releases such as NBA 09: The Inside (NA), SOCOM: Confrontation (NA/EU/JP/AU), Eternal Sonata (NA), BioShock (NA/EU), LittleBigPlanet (NA/EU/JP/AU), and MotorStorm: Pacific Rift (NA) along with the public release of PlayStation Home while the only remotely major exclusive release for the 360 in October is Fable II (NA/EU/AU).

Microsoft isn't without hope of possibly coming out on top.

 

Eternal Sonata and Bioshock have been on the XBox 360 for a while now.

Microsoft isn't without hope of possibility?  Bold words from someone who's console is getting hammered right now.

BioShock is widely considered to be the best game currently available on Xbox 360 and Eternal Sonata will be the first decent JRPG on the PS3. Even if it's only a couple thousand units, it will amount to PS3s being sold.

Hammered right now? Friend, my console is the Wii, and it's certainly not getting hammered. Furthermore, you seem to also speak very big words for the 360 considering that it has been getting hammered by a much greater degree all year.



ManusJustus said:

Seihyouken said:

PS3 is set to completely dominate all of October with releases such as NBA 09: The Inside (NA)- the worst NBA game out of the 3 available, SOCOM: Confrontation (NA/EU/JP/AU), Eternal Sonata (NA)-port, BioShock (NA/EU)-port, LittleBigPlanet (NA/EU/JP/AU)-can be a hit/miss in sales, and MotorStorm: Pacific Rift (NA)-Pure is better along with the public release of PlayStation Home-what its taken them 3 years?who cares while the only remotely major exclusive release for the 360 in October is Fable II (NA/EU/AU).Forgot about Gears 2, LFD, Banjo???

Microsoft isn't without hope of possibly coming out on top.

 

Eternal Sonata and Bioshock have been on the XBox 360 for a while now.

Microsoft isn't without hope of possibility?  Bold words from someone who's console is getting hammered right now.

 

Wow so ur getting excited over ports, a online service a medicore shooter and the worst NBA game.



Yes I think judging by sales in the USA and especially in the UK this past week which have been huge the 360 will win this Christmas,even Japan like and are now buying the latest 175w Falcon 360.

Price advantage for the Wii is over to.....



psrock said:
Do you know the 360 sold more last year in Sept in NA than this year?

360 will sell much more in November this year than it did in November last year.

Xmas sales for PS3 and X360 should be 50% YoY of last years Xmas sales.