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darthdevidem01 said:
stof said:
With the exception of Resident Evil 5, the Wii really is the best console for Zombie killing.

thats one mother of an exception though

 

True, but it won't seem so bad when We find out what new RE game Capcom has instore for the Wii (yes, this is just my prediction and YES, it will either be an RE2 Remake or Umbrella Chronicles 2). 

and House of the Dead 4! HOUSE OF THE DEAD 4!

 

 



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I think its a permanent problem.

If you go to the american sales and search for the Wii and DS sales for say the first 50 games you will see what I mean.The kiddie stuff sells ,the mature content not so much.

The graphics of the Wii arent good enough.That didnt prevent the PS2 from getting mature content but that was 2000 now we are in 2008,those graphics dont cut the mustard anymore core and hardcore gamers cant accept that technical level anymore.Many Wii owners have other consoles too ,and they will the mature content for those.

The Wii will get some mature and core content .....but it will always lag behind the other two consoles in this department.



I'd say the biggest reason why there are few M-rated games on Wii is because Nintendo rarely publishes an M-rated game. Since they've invested the lion's share of money into Wii software development, that means there are relatively few M-rated games.

This isn't the same as the OP's reason number 4. It's not a deliberate attempt to 'keep the Wii clean,' Nintendo simply doesn't like to raise barriers to a game's purchase by having high ratings. As third parties invest more in developing Wii software, we see more mature titles like House of the Dead: Overkill and MadWorld show up.



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Diomedes1976 said:
I think its a permanent problem.

If you go to the american sales and search for the Wii and DS sales for say the first 50 games you will see what I mean.The kiddie stuff sells ,the mature content not so much.

The graphics of the Wii arent good enough.That didnt prevent the PS2 from getting mature content but that was 2000 now we are in 2008,those graphics dont cut the mustard anymore core and hardcore gamers cant accept that technical level anymore.Many Wii owners have other consoles too ,and they will the mature content for those.

The Wii will get some mature and core content .....but it will always lag behind the other two consoles in this department.

 

Dude are you serious??? And then you go and claim that im the fanboy??? Do you actually pay attention on whats going on in this generation??? Or are you still in your parallel universe when the ps3 is dominating the generation by a huge margin????



Its ironic that the kiddie system has arguablt the most bloody game on the current-gen market and one that will top it (MadWorld) is coming up. Mature content is here, but will come in droves come 2009.



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kitler53 said: 

fixed.

 

 T_T

 

To everyone else, can you please point me towards Nintendo's upcoming title? Not refuting, I'm genuinely curious, I am currently living in an apartment with a mate who owns a wii, and all the games he has are nintendo's PG library so my knowledge is limited to what I gleam on the net and his games.

Looking at the Holiday lineup of blockbuster for PS360:

Resistence 2, Gears of War 2, Dead Space, MK vs DC, Golden Axe, CoD5, Far Cry 2 to name a few, all catering towards the adult audience.

Nintendo release for this Holiday? What about current list of mature games?

CoD and Madworld both look promising, but the disparity in numbers are still huge.

The problem I have with Nintendo's next year's release is the same I have with Sony's 'great titles coming soon'.

Three games I can think of that I'd be very interest in getting my hands on are No More Heroes, Resident Evil and Metroid.

Are there any other recommendation? I'll most likely purchase at least one for a present and I'd certainly be playing it (best concept ever, buying a game as a present that you can play everyday!!!)

I acknowledge that Sony and MS need to catch the casual audience a lot more than Nintendo needs the mature audience, they're trying to do that even as we speak, whether they can succeed or not is another question.




Have none of you ever bought a Nintendo system? I mean NES, SNES, N64, any Game boy system, Gamecube and now Wii, there have NEVER been more then a handful of mature titles on any of them. Yes there was Mortal Kombat on the SNES (eventually...the first few incarnations Nintendo censored), there was Conkers bad fur day on the N64 and a handful of other titles and there were a few Zombie games on the Gamecube but there has never been much mature content at all on any Nintendo systems ever. Sony, Sega and Microsoft systems all got more mature content in a year then Nintendo systems got in a generation.

As to why that is, mature content is never the huge seller on the Nintendo systems it is on the other systems. I bet you if Manhunt 2 had been for the 360 and PS3 it would have sold far better. Manhunt 1 on the PS2 sold over a million copies while Manhunt 2 struggled to hit 200k on the Wii for instance. If you look at all the big movers for Nintendo systems over the years very very few of them are adult oriented games. On the other hand most of the big MS and Sony sellers have been either geared towards adults (Gran Turismo series for example) or had a lot of mature content (Halo, GTA, Call of Duty ect).

Yes there are exceptions like Resident Evil 4 where violent games sold well on Nintendo systems, but even in the case of RE4 the PS2 version, released LONG after the Gamecube version, sold twice as well.

Some will say Metroid Prime and a few others should count as adult oriented, but in terms of almost everything except for the idea that both include shooting a gun metroid is night and day different from a game like Gears of War or GTA.


I think its a combo of A) most people who like mature games have learned to either not buy Nintendo systems or only to buy them as a secondary system for non adult games (Mario Kart, Smash Bros) which are fun and Nintendo friendly and B) developers have looked at Nintendo numbers on violent games and spent their time developing for the platforms on which those games can sell (360 and PS3) instead of on the platform where modest sales are the best outcome (the Wii or the Gamecube last gen).

There's a lot of reasons people like Nintendo systems, their adult game collections is not one of them.




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Disaster DoC was rated M in Australia, which probably means a T game here but it might turn out to be mature and its from Nintendo. Then there's Madworld, House of the Dead, The Conduit, Dead Rising, the REmakes, and a few others that slipped my mind at the moment.

But honestly my friend had this argument before and said PS3 had more mature games then Wii not long after it launched, and I told him Wii had more but he wouldn't believe me so I had to go out and take pictures of every M rated title to prove it the Wii had a total of 9 M games at the time and PS3 had like 5 or 6. The fact is nothing is holding Wii back from M rated games and more are on the way.

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mibuokami said:
kitler53 said: 

fixed.

 

 T_T

 

To everyone else, can you please point me towards Nintendo's upcoming title? Not refuting, I'm genuinely curious, I am currently living in an apartment with a mate who owns a wii, and all the games he has are nintendo's PG library so my knowledge is limited to what I gleam on the net and his games.

Looking at the Holiday lineup of blockbuster for PS360:

Resistence 2, Gears of War 2, Dead Space, MK vs DC, Golden Axe, CoD5, Far Cry 2 to name a few, all catering towards the adult audience.

Nintendo release for this Holiday? What about current list of mature games?

CoD and Madworld both look promising, but the disparity in numbers are still huge.

The problem I have with Nintendo's next year's release is the same I have with Sony's 'great titles coming soon'.

Three games I can think of that I'd be very interest in getting my hands on are No More Heroes, Resident Evil and Metroid.

Are there any other recommendation? I'll most likely purchase at least one for a present and I'd certainly be playing it (best concept ever, buying a game as a present that you can play everyday!!!)

I acknowledge that Sony and MS need to catch the casual audience a lot more than Nintendo needs the mature audience, they're trying to do that even as we speak, whether they can succeed or not is another question.

 

With regard to M-rated games, the Wii is actually doing better than it gets credit for.

Already out: RE4, RE:UC, Manhunt, Medal of Honour, Brothers in Arms: Double Time, Call of Duty 3, Red Steel, Far Cry: Vengeance (I know the last three aren't great games, but we're only talking ratings, right?), No More Heroes

Coming soon: Call of Duty 5, Quantum of Solace (M-rated, right?), Mad World, Fatal Frame IV, Disaster: Day of Crisis, Conduit, Red Steel 2, Ubisoft has promised some Tom Clancy games, Cursed Mountain, and I believe Miyamoto even said that he wouldn't be surprised if the next Zelda would be M-Rated.



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Why release something on a console that won't sell on that console? People keep clamoring for "more mature" games on the Wii, yet every time one comes out, it sells horribly. While I'm sure there are a select few who would appreciate it, the market is making it clear on a regular basis that extreme violence does not in fact sell that great on the Wii. Instead of blaming the hardware or something silly like that, perhaps you should take a closer look at why the Wii is successful, and realize that said success is actually a hindrance to the sort of game that tends to appeal to 15-to-35-year-old males and pretty much nobody else.



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