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Millennium on 28 September 2008
rendo said:
ultimate_123 said:

Its not a full fledged console thus not many people will buy it. Even casuals have enough sense as I've seen in the past few weeks. Now if the pro was to hit $199...

Are you insane?  I bought it.  I can get a HDD used and then it's the exact same thing as the Pro AND cheaper.  I think you underestimate the economic issues in the world and how much $100 means to a LOT of lower income families.

Those lower-income families are, by and large, not looking to get video game systems anyway, and even if they are, they're likely looking more toward the PS2: a popular system with a huge and relatively inexpensive library. They're passing over this generation entirely.

The people interested in this generation can, by and large, afford something in the $300-400 range. Yet even when the Arcade and its ancestors were in this bracket, the Arcade failed to outsell its bigger cousins. Price is not the issue here; previous price cuts on the HD consoles have shown this, and it shouldn't surprise anyone that the 360 Arcade price cut is once again following the pattern: a week of high sales, a week of somewhat lesser sales, and then a crash-and-burn back to normal levels.

All this has happened before. All this will happen again. Why is anyone surprised that all this is happening now?



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reptile168 on 28 September 2008

If this isn't a full fledged console, then the PS2 wasn't a full fledged console. PS2 had barely nothing, and you MUST pay an extra for the memory card while the 360 arcade comes with the memory card. It's also bundled with arcade games. You don't need the HDD to play 360 games and go on xbox live.



rendo on 29 September 2008

Those lower-income families are, by and large, not looking to get video game systems anyway, and even if they are, they're likely looking more toward the PS2: a popular system with a huge and relatively inexpensive library. They're passing over this generation entirely.


I think you're wrong. Lower income families, such as mine, many are interested in gaming and price is the biggest deciding factor. Lower income families may not have as much money as the middle class, but they still WANT things for themselves, or for their kids. How many lower income families have cars? TVs? Internet?



stranne on 29 September 2008

Gaming is quite cheap compared to many IRL activities.



AlexeiYashin on 29 September 2008
Supernova82 said:
Arcade sales only account for around 10% of new X360 retail purchases. HDD is essential for gaming on XBox 360. 20GB HDD being recently replaced with 60GB HDD.

 

Uh, huh.

I play on Live with my harddrive less 360 all the time. The ONLY reason for the harddrive is to download demos of games, which I couldn't care less about. I can even fit ANY XBLA game if I want to on my memory card.

If anything the arcade SKU is much better than people realize. Most people, like you, don't seem to realize what a bargain it is.

Most people thinks it can't be used on Live and many even think it's just for old arcade games, ridiculously enough.

 



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AlexeiYashin on 29 September 2008
mibuokami said:
If the current pricedrop ever hits Australia before xmas, I'd most likely buy an arcade purely for the xbox's library of JRPG. I don't believe the additional HD or Live is neccessary for these game and it will sit nicely in the living room along with the PS3 and the Wii.

Yes the price can be a MAJOR factor.

 

See ? Even people on this board seems to think you need the HDD to use or play on Live.

It's pretty sad.

 



mibuokami on 30 September 2008
AlexeiYashin said:
mibuokami said:
If the current pricedrop ever hits Australia before xmas, I'd most likely buy an arcade purely for the xbox's library of JRPG. I don't believe the additional HD or Live is neccessary for these game and it will sit nicely in the living room along with the PS3 and the Wii.

Yes the price can be a MAJOR factor.

 

See ? Even people on this board seems to think you need the HDD to use or play on Live.

It's pretty sad.

 

 

Um no, I know HDD is not needed for Live, I just won't be using either the HD or Live, since the only reason I am buying it is for the JRPG :)