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I honestly can not see Kingdom Hearts being a PS3 exclusive. It just fits so well into the Wii it would be ludicrous to make that one exclusive.

Hey Gballzack, finally you have an avatar that doesn't display something that makes me sick to my stomach. Unless that is a clipped picture of somethink much worse...

I think at worst FF13 will be a timed exclusive for Sony. I think it's clear that FF sells better world wide, DQ sells better in Japan. I think the arguments are pretty solid in that.

Oh and shame on the moderators for not locking this thread the moment it came into existence. If you thought this would be anything but more flame bait then.. How many mods do you have now. If I were a mod I would lock threads like this the moment they got out of hand this is just irresponsible.



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windbane said:
naznatips said:
twingo said:

Just looking at the line up.

Exclusives

LittleBigPlanet Wii Fit
Killzone2 Is this an alternate dimension where Japanes stopped hating FPS games?
Final Fantasy 13 Dragon Quest IX
Metal gear Solid Super Mario Galaxy
Fina Fantasy 13 Versus Dragon Quest Swords
Gran Turismo 5 Mario Kart Wii
White Night Story Final Fantasy CC: CB
Monster Hunter 3 Super Smash Bros. Brawl

Multi platform games

Beautiful Katamari

Many others but these should be big with the public over there. They are in perfect place to continue their great showings that started at GDC.


Not to say that they don't have some great things to show, but in a country owned 80% by Nintendo do you really see the games I crossed out being bigger than the ones I added in?


Yeah, I think the PS3 games are bigger there overall. But I think it's more about Sony presenting their own case at this point. All Sony needs to do is pick up their own sales in order to keep Japanese developer support for their top games.


Well I agree with you that Sony really needs to get developer confidence back up (Heck, Square outright said they would stop making games for the system entirely). I guess it's just a difference of opinion as to who has a stronger show.  I think Nintendo's is stronger overall, but I think Sony's is also very good.  I'm looking forward to TGS this year.



DarkD said:
I honestly can not see Kingdom Hearts being a PS3 exclusive. It just fits so well into the Wii it would be ludicrous to make that one exclusive.

Hey Gballzack, finally you have an avatar that doesn't display something that makes me sick to my stomach. Unless that is a clipped picture of somethink much worse...

I think at worst FF13 will be a timed exclusive for Sony. I think it's clear that FF sells better world wide, DQ sells better in Japan. I think the arguments are pretty solid in that.

Oh and shame on the moderators for not locking this thread the moment it came into existence. If you thought this would be anything but more flame bait then.. How many mods do you have now. If I were a mod I would lock threads like this the moment they got out of hand this is just irresponsible.

It's an adorable Mithra from FFXI



WiteoutKing said:
libellule said:
NO,

SH4 was PS3/Xbox/PC, not nintendo (too creppy lol)
SH3/SH2 was Xbox/PS2/PC too
SH1 was only on PS

 "Too creepy"?  You've never played Eternal Darkness, have you?


You didn't see Eternal Darkness' sale numbers, did you?



Ummm wasn't dragon quest 8 on PS2. Doesn't PS2 have a bigger install base than the DS. hell isn't the PS2 the highest selling single console to date.



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grimygunz said:
Ummm wasn't dragon quest 8 on PS2. Doesn't PS2 have a bigger install base than the DS. hell isn't the PS2 the highest selling single console to date.

Yes, this is true. However:

1) We're only talking about Japan. That's the only place Dragon Quest matters.

2) The DS is currently at 85 percent of the PS2's install base there. It will absolutely blow past the PS2's install base by the end of the year

3) The DS has a larger install base in Japan now than the PS2 did when DQ VIII was released

So DQ IX actually does have a better environment (install base + projected base growth) than DQ VIII did, but that doesn't detract from the PS2's overall dominance. You are correct -- worldwide, the PS2 is the best selling system in history, be it home console or handheld.

 



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grimygunz said:
Ummm wasn't dragon quest 8 on PS2. Doesn't PS2 have a bigger install base than the DS. hell isn't the PS2 the highest selling single console to date.

Heh, wouldn't it be great if everything was that simple?  There are a lot of other factors, such as attach rate, popularity, competition, and of course the other games in the library.  But, hey, just for the hell of it, let's go with your theory.  Graphs are fun though, so lets play with this one.

http://www.vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=PS2&reg1=Japan&cons2=DS&reg2=Japan&cons3=PS3&reg3=Japan

Here we have a graph comparing current Japanese sales of the PS2, DS, and PS3.  Time for some fun math!  After only 2 and a half years, the DS is a mere 3.8 million units behind the PS2's 21.9 million sales after 7 and 1/4 years.  This places the DS 17% behind the PS2's sales.  The PS3 on the other hand is currently sitting at 1 million units sold is currently 95% behind the PS2's sales, but since it won't be released for a while, I'll be nice and go ahead and DOUBLE the PS2's current Japanese sales (something which is very unlikely to happen by the release of FFXIII), putting it at 90% the PS2's sales when FFXIII comes out.

Since you are so keen on amount of console sold, let's apply these differentials to the 2 games which are primarily being discussed (Final Fantasy XIII and DQIX).

Dragon Quest VIII sold 3.61 million units in Japan, if we apply the -17% to it (as per your console sales theory) then DQIX will sell about 3 million units.

Final Fantasy XII sold 2.42 million units in Japan, if we apply the -90% to it then FFXIII will sell about 242,000 copies.

 

Now, we both know this isn't the way things work, and although FFXIII will very likely sell around FFXII's numbers or less, I very much expect DQIX to be the best selling DQ game in history (both in Japan and Worldwide). 



Gballzack said:
DarkD said:
I honestly can not see Kingdom Hearts being a PS3 exclusive. It just fits so well into the Wii it would be ludicrous to make that one exclusive.

Hey Gballzack, finally you have an avatar that doesn't display something that makes me sick to my stomach. Unless that is a clipped picture of somethink much worse...

I think at worst FF13 will be a timed exclusive for Sony. I think it's clear that FF sells better world wide, DQ sells better in Japan. I think the arguments are pretty solid in that.

Oh and shame on the moderators for not locking this thread the moment it came into existence. If you thought this would be anything but more flame bait then.. How many mods do you have now. If I were a mod I would lock threads like this the moment they got out of hand this is just irresponsible.

It's an adorable Mithra from FFXI


Yes, when I see a highly sexualized cat girl with erect nipples, wearing nothing but a string bikini that features prominent camel toe, I think "adorable." You know, like a puppy.

Not that your pic is inappropriate, GBZ. It's well drawn, pretty cool and all. I just think it's funny that "adorable" is the first word that comes to mind for you.



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Yes Sony will probably steal the show. They have to. I really don't mean this sarcastically: they need some vaporware, Killzone is become real they need more stuff years away to show us the potential for PS3.

Nintendo will be a no-show, but with a key-note. I would be surprised if Nintendo, in 2 hours, can out shine PS3 in 3 days.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

Bodhesatva said:
Gballzack said:
DarkD said:
I honestly can not see Kingdom Hearts being a PS3 exclusive. It just fits so well into the Wii it would be ludicrous to make that one exclusive.

Hey Gballzack, finally you have an avatar that doesn't display something that makes me sick to my stomach. Unless that is a clipped picture of somethink much worse...

I think at worst FF13 will be a timed exclusive for Sony. I think it's clear that FF sells better world wide, DQ sells better in Japan. I think the arguments are pretty solid in that.

Oh and shame on the moderators for not locking this thread the moment it came into existence. If you thought this would be anything but more flame bait then.. How many mods do you have now. If I were a mod I would lock threads like this the moment they got out of hand this is just irresponsible.

It's an adorable Mithra from FFXI


Yes, when I see a highly sexualized cat girl with erect nipples, wearing nothing but a string bikini that features prominent camel toe, I think "adorable." You know, like a puppy.

Not that your pic is inappropriate, GBZ. It's well drawn, pretty cool and all. I just think it's funny that "adorable" is the first word that comes to mind for you.


Oh come on, like you wouldn't want to pet her.