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to Gballzack,
==> You saied "its sales just declined" about soucalibur serie
then I can argue it is the same for SH serie, the sales declined BUT the game are great !!!
Well, to say the truth, I know that SH3/SH4 are not as good as SH1/2, for the majority of the SH gamers (including me).
But I dont see how u can prejudge for SH5 or even Origins since the game are not even out !
Finally, the point about SH5 was absolutely not to claim something like
"Wii will not have SH5"
but just answer to "finalsquall" that thougt the SH serie was a sony exclusivity.

were u trying to pick up a fight ? or maybe just to pick up a ban ?
...

to robjoh,
==> I should try to get Eternal Darkness then



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wow, i thought dragons quest was way way way bigger in japan than final fantasy, yet looking at the 'vgchartz japan totals' it seems there pretty much neck and neck. have i missed something?



I would absolutely recommend playing Eternal Darkness. It's on the GameCube, there have been off-and-on rumors about the possibility of a Wii sequel.

The general point of the game is that as you play, your Sanity (represented by a meter) can take damage, and as you slowly become more and more insane, the game itself changes. Blood spurts from the ceiling, healing potions instead eviscerate you (then return you to normal a short time later), the character shrinks, footsteps are heard from right behind you, mumbling in the distance, paintings and sculptures staring at you as you pass.

It's an experience, I'll tell you that. EXCELLENT fun in a group, in a dark room.



PS3: 5.51m/51w, avg 108,039/w (up 239)
360: 12.93m/102w, avg 126,764/w (up 625), leads PS3 by 7.42m (up 70k), avg lead 18,725/w (up 386)
Wii: 13.52m/51w, avg 265,098/w (dn 1,102), leads PS3 by 8.01m (up 90k), avg lead 157,059/w (dn 1,341)

If 360 sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass 360 by...
01/08: (008w) +875.8%, 04/08: (021w) +344.4%, 07/08: (034w) +219.3%, 10/08: (047w) +163.5%
01/09: (060w) +131.8%, 04/09: (073w) +111.4%, 07/09: (085w) +098.1%, 10/09: (099w) +086.7%
If Wii sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass Wii by...
01/08: (008w) +1072.%, 04/08: (021w) +498.4%, 07/08: (034w) +363.4%, 10/08: (047w) +303.1%
01/09: (060w) +269.0%, 04/09: (073w) +246.9%, 07/09: (085w) +232.6%, 10/09: (099w) +220.3%
If PS2 sales freeze, Wii sales increases needed to pass PS2 (as of Mar07, 108.4m) by...
2008: (008w) +4373.8%, 2009: (060w) +0496.5%, 2010: (112w) +0219.6%, 2011: (165w) +0116.9%
2012: (217w) +0064.9%, 2013: (269w) +0033.1%, 2014: (321w) +0011.5%, 2015: (376w) -0004.8%
At +0% it will pass it in 358w, the week ending September 19th, 2014, at an age of 409w (7y44w).
Current age of PS2: 7y37w.

Last update: Week ending November 3, 2007

Well so much for Sony exclusives VS DQ.

EDIT: I noticed the FF Chart was generated with 1.8 mil as the minimum, instead of 0, I guess to look more accurate. So FF is alot closer to DQ than it looks.



omgwtfbbq said:
RolStoppable said:

It's not just any handheld game, it's Dragon Quest 9, the sequel to the best selling series in Japan. As Bodhesatva has pointed out in another thread only 3 games ever in Japan managed to outsell a Dragon Quest game of the main series (Super Mario Bros, SMB3, Super Mario Kart).

Also, DQ9 is coming for a platform that is hot (DS), while FF13 and Vs. are coming to a platform that is not (PS3).

What are you talking about Rol? Dragon Quest is not the best selling series in Japan. How could you put such a ridiculous claim on a website where the sales figures are accessible with a single click? Even it's number 2 spot is contentious, it only really makes it due to the volume of games sold. Final Fantasy doesn't even get a place.

The number one selling franchise in Japan is clearly Pokemon:

http://vgchartz.com/japtotals.php

And of course, this goes to show that 1 handheld game could EASILY outhype FF13 and FF13Versus. If that handheld game was Pokemon. Dragon Quest IX will only SLIGHTLY outhype FF13 and FF13Versus.


Sorry, my post missed an essential part.

On the consoles DQ games were released on they were always the top selling games in Japan, only the three mentioned games mentioned to beat a DQ game in sales on their respective platforms.

A single sentence is missing and causes my previous post to be complete nonsens.

EDIT: Checking the link you posted, I have either missread Bod's post in the other thread or he missed something. Anyway, I better do the research myself next time and don't rely on others without checking the facts.



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FF7 3.93 (PS1)
FF8 3.64
FF9 2.80
FF10 3.02 (PS2)
FF10-2 2.41
FF12 2.42

DQ6 3.19 (SNES)
DQ7 4.12 (PS1)
DQ8 3.61 (PS2)



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Gballzack said:
ckmlb said:
Gballzack said:
wow, the sony fanboys are getting desperate. Since SH2 was the last worthwhile SH game, I don't see a loss in not getting SH5 or Origins. Typical settup thread from Blue 3 I suppose.

Not surprising after you wanted SC IV on Wii very badly then when it was announced as PS3 and 360 only you proceeded to bash it and say it was a franchise in decline and whatnot.

Fanboys can't tolereate any games on consoles they don't worhip no matter how good they are.


I naturally want as many games as possible to be on the Wii, but owning all four SH games, I can attest to SH2 being the last good one, I'm sorry you feel it is some sort of excuse, but sales will speak to this point as well.

SC never stopped being a good series, its sales just declined, and that was the point I was making there. Sorry you feel this is some sort of conspiracy theory.

 

If you think that way then do you expect SMG not to be good since Mario Sunshine wasn't as good as Mario 64?

That doesn't make any sense.... also SC III was released on 1 system versus 3 so sales were effected by that. I didn't know sales were the absolute reference of how good a game is...

Bottom line is you didn't say it wasn't as good as other SC games you said it was a dying franchise and generally dubbed it a crappy game, right after wanting it on your system before.

I think your intentions are clear. 

 



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johnsobas said:


FF7 3.93 (PS1)
FF8 3.64
FF9 2.80
FF10 3.02 (PS2)
FF10-2 2.41
FF12 2.42

DQ6 3.19 (SNES)
DQ7 4.12 (PS1)
DQ8 3.61 (PS2)


I thought the difference was much bigger than that....

That shows that DQ sells better than FF in Japan but not by a landslide by any means. 



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johnsobas said:


FF7 3.93 (PS1)
FF8 3.64
FF9 2.80
FF10 3.02 (PS2)
FF10-2 2.41
FF12 2.42

DQ6 3.19 (SNES)
DQ7 4.12 (PS1)
DQ8 3.61 (PS2)


 So evan the two lowest selling FFs out sale the highest selling DQ.

 So as far as sales two FF games > one DQ.



ckmlb said:

1. If you think that way then do you expect SMG not to be good since Mario Sunshine wasn't as good as Mario 64?

2. That doesn't make any sense.... also SC III was released on 1 system versus 3 so sales were effected by that. I didn't know sales were the absolute reference of how good a game is...

3. Bottom line is you didn't say it wasn't as good as other SC games you said it was a dying franchise and generally dubbed it a crappy game, right after wanting it on your system before.

4. I think your intentions are clear. 

 


1. Not really, Everyone can agree Sunshine was an isolated incident in that it was the first main series Mario not worked on by Miyamoto. It's an outlier, not a rule by which to deduce a trend in future games especially when the uniqe set of circumstances that resulted in it are no longer the means by which the next game is to be made.

2. You're jumping all over the place here, calmn down. Soul Calibur 2 for the PS2 sold better than Soul Calibur 3 so your logic is debunked. And no one said sales were the absolute reference of how good a game is, but they are the closest thing we have to determining such or at the very least, the games success. You are the one who keeps insisting there is any means by witch to measure the subjective ideal of a game's absolute value, not I, please stop putting your words in other people's mouths in trying to derail their statements.

3. It was your assumption, not my words, that I was saying: "it was a crappy game". I never said such a thing, I've always thought the series stayed strong, but there is no denying the declining status of the franchise given its sales. Again, you jumping to conclusions and putting words in other people's mouths.

4. As is your paranoya and hyper-sensitivity to anything remotely anti-Sony. When I first came to this forum you were a cool and reserved advocate of logic and concise debating... Now you're reduced to this...