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famousringo said:
Ail said:
famousringo said:

Digital distribution will compensate for its DRM-like attributes with convenience, services and savings for the consumer. Why should I care that I can't get a $20 trade-in value at Gamestop if I paid $20 less for the game in the first place?

This SecureROM crap only offers the consumer more costs.

 

 

You actually think people will stop bitching ?

And what makes you think digitally distributed games will be cheaper ?

Seems to me new releases are the same price on Steam as in retail.

So are the retail games you can download on the PSN.

You're not going to pay less for digital games than at retail as long as games still come at retail too or retailer would complain about unfair competition..( and retailers will keep a say as they are the medium to sell the consoles themselves).

 

 Since online distribution is so much cheaper than brick and mortar, those which do provide better value to the consumer will succeed, those which do not will fail.

Retailers aren't in much of a position to object. I don't see them flexing their might to crush music and movie downloads.

 

Big difference between Music/Movie and consoles gaming is that those distributing the hardware and the software aren't the same person so retailers can't pressure hardware maker to get the same deal as online distribution services...

Whereas for consoles the hardware maker do get a say in the software...

I do agree that online distribution will pick up, I doubt it will however affect prices that much. The added services it will provide is access to a bigger catalog for customers and less piracy for developers.

 



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Kasz216 said:
ssj12 said:
please win please. EA needs to learn that DRM isnt the answer as long as you have a great game. Take for example The Witcher. CD Projekt Red doesnt have DRM built in and its selling well due to the fact its an amazing game. The only reason I'm downloading the enhanced edition DVD file is because I can't get the free upgrade patch to work. I own the original and they offer all bonus material for free. So I;m not even pirating the game since it is a free upgrade anyways with the original.

I think DRM can be an answer.... just not like the Securom kind.

 

The kind where one copy can only be online at once, and it beign tied to one EA account.  Thats "good" DRM.

The kind that installs on your computer for no reason and limited installs are the "Bad" kind.

In my opinion anyway.

 

 

but you dont even really need DRM for that, just an online account based system fior multiplayer features.



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DRM is awful.

It only hurts the paying customer, pirates still just crack it.

I hope this lawsuit wins against them and they remove it from the game or something.



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ssj12 said:
Kasz216 said:
ssj12 said:
please win please. EA needs to learn that DRM isnt the answer as long as you have a great game. Take for example The Witcher. CD Projekt Red doesnt have DRM built in and its selling well due to the fact its an amazing game. The only reason I'm downloading the enhanced edition DVD file is because I can't get the free upgrade patch to work. I own the original and they offer all bonus material for free. So I;m not even pirating the game since it is a free upgrade anyways with the original.

I think DRM can be an answer.... just not like the Securom kind.

 

The kind where one copy can only be online at once, and it beign tied to one EA account.  Thats "good" DRM.

The kind that installs on your computer for no reason and limited installs are the "Bad" kind.

In my opinion anyway.

 

 

but you dont even really need DRM for that, just an online account based system fior multiplayer features.

 

Just make it so that you have to log in online to play any game be it single player or online player..( ' But I don't have online access when I play from a remote island in the middle of the pacific during my vacations !'...)

 

 

PS : I highly doubt this lawsuit has any chance of winning. The impact on any software company that doesn't clearly state what is installed when you install their product would be way too huge...



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Ail said:
ssj12 said:
Kasz216 said:
ssj12 said:
please win please. EA needs to learn that DRM isnt the answer as long as you have a great game. Take for example The Witcher. CD Projekt Red doesnt have DRM built in and its selling well due to the fact its an amazing game. The only reason I'm downloading the enhanced edition DVD file is because I can't get the free upgrade patch to work. I own the original and they offer all bonus material for free. So I;m not even pirating the game since it is a free upgrade anyways with the original.

I think DRM can be an answer.... just not like the Securom kind.

 

The kind where one copy can only be online at once, and it beign tied to one EA account.  Thats "good" DRM.

The kind that installs on your computer for no reason and limited installs are the "Bad" kind.

In my opinion anyway.

 

 

but you dont even really need DRM for that, just an online account based system fior multiplayer features.

 

Just make it so that you have to log in online to play any game be it single player or online player..( ' But I don't have online access when I play from a remote island in the middle of the pacific during my vacations !'...)

 

 

PS : I highly doubt this lawsuit has any chance of winning. The impact on any software company that doesn't clearly state what is installed when you install their product would be way too huge...

 

like I said, if a games good it will sell DRM or not and blocking single player gameplay with a login limits use too. Just have an off-line mode and and online mode for online gameplay.

Really look at all of Blizzard's RTSs. Battle.net needs an login but there is still the single player. I'm pretty sure no one here will say that none Blizzard's games don't sell.



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ssj12 said:
Ail said:
ssj12 said:
Kasz216 said:
ssj12 said:
please win please. EA needs to learn that DRM isnt the answer as long as you have a great game. Take for example The Witcher. CD Projekt Red doesnt have DRM built in and its selling well due to the fact its an amazing game. The only reason I'm downloading the enhanced edition DVD file is because I can't get the free upgrade patch to work. I own the original and they offer all bonus material for free. So I;m not even pirating the game since it is a free upgrade anyways with the original.

I think DRM can be an answer.... just not like the Securom kind.

 

The kind where one copy can only be online at once, and it beign tied to one EA account.  Thats "good" DRM.

The kind that installs on your computer for no reason and limited installs are the "Bad" kind.

In my opinion anyway.

 

 

but you dont even really need DRM for that, just an online account based system fior multiplayer features.

 

Just make it so that you have to log in online to play any game be it single player or online player..( ' But I don't have online access when I play from a remote island in the middle of the pacific during my vacations !'...)

 

 

PS : I highly doubt this lawsuit has any chance of winning. The impact on any software company that doesn't clearly state what is installed when you install their product would be way too huge...

 

like I said, if a games good it will sell DRM or not and blocking single player gameplay with a login limits use too. Just have an off-line mode and and online mode for online gameplay.

Really look at all of Blizzard's RTSs. Battle.net needs an login but there is still the single player. I'm pretty sure no one here will say that none Blizzard's games don't sell.

 

It helps that for most Blizzard games multiplayer is the strongest component of the game, even a game like Diablo2 there are items and runewords you can only get on battlenet..

 



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Ail said:
ssj12 said:
Kasz216 said:
ssj12 said:
please win please. EA needs to learn that DRM isnt the answer as long as you have a great game. Take for example The Witcher. CD Projekt Red doesnt have DRM built in and its selling well due to the fact its an amazing game. The only reason I'm downloading the enhanced edition DVD file is because I can't get the free upgrade patch to work. I own the original and they offer all bonus material for free. So I;m not even pirating the game since it is a free upgrade anyways with the original.

I think DRM can be an answer.... just not like the Securom kind.

 

The kind where one copy can only be online at once, and it beign tied to one EA account.  Thats "good" DRM.

The kind that installs on your computer for no reason and limited installs are the "Bad" kind.

In my opinion anyway.

 

 

but you dont even really need DRM for that, just an online account based system fior multiplayer features.

 

Just make it so that you have to log in online to play any game be it single player or online player..( ' But I don't have online access when I play from a remote island in the middle of the pacific during my vacations !'...)

 

 

PS : I highly doubt this lawsuit has any chance of winning. The impact on any software company that doesn't clearly state what is installed when you install their product would be way too huge...

 

Because judges know how much the industry will change? They don't give a damn about the companies unless they are being paid by one of the sides.

Also, Blizzard games have as strong single-player ass they do multi. The runewords which you can only get on Bnet are false. Anything you can get online you can get offline too, as long as it is patched to the right version of course.

Then what about UT2004. About 2 months after it came out you no longer needed the CD to play, and then online required no authentication of any sort. Basically you were free to make a copy of the disk, slap the Key on there and you'd still have the full game with all its features unlocked. From what I hear UT2004 didn't do so poorly either.



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I hope they win, so I can get a refund for the crappy game I bought 1st day!



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Strategyking92 said:
I hope they win, so I can get a refund for the crappy game I bought 1st day!

 

That's not gonna happen, also Spore is absolutely awesome. GOTY material.



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HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

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Strategyking92 said:
I hope they win, so I can get a refund for the crappy game I bought 1st day!

how about get the spyware off our PCs? that would be a great start.

 



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