Rare says: We were working on Avatars "before Miis

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famousringo on 11 September 2008

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hah we are all god's avatars! made in his image for when he plays wii golf!

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Lolcislaw on 11 September 2008

poor Rare why no one believes them? World is so Cruel

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Sansui on 11 September 2008

heruamon said:

Gnizmo said:

heruamon said:

Sansui said:
Whether true or not, no one will care.

Just like people are already ripping on Warhammer Online for "copying" World of Warcraft's style.... when World of Warcraft copied Warhammer's style to begin with.

How did WoW copy Warhammer's style?

WoW did not copy Warhammers style at allreally. What it did do was take Warcraft and pu it into an MMO form. Warcraft was originally going to be a Warhammer game, but the owners of Warhammer backed out before release and Blizzard simply renamed everything and pushed forward. So Warcraft is essentially a huge rip off of Warhammer.

So, Warhammer has titans and demons? See...once again, HOW are they similiar...lore? classes? I'm not asking for the histroy...I know that, I'm asking about technically, how are the 2 the same? What's in WoW, that you see and it's like...that's STRAIGHT from Warhammer? That's what I've been trying to understand for a long time now, because I see nearly nothing....and I play WoW, and I'm in WAR's beta...I'm not seeing it.

Listen champ. I played Warcraft too (for two completely wasted years of my life), and I've played the Warhammer beta AND tabletop games. Was guildmaster of a guild in WoW, that at it's height, was 31st in the WORLD in terms of raid progress, both horde and alliance. Don't get your undies in a wad cause I said Warcraft ripped off Warhammer's art style and you can't see it.

The Warhammer 'universe' has been around for a long time, since the early 80's. In the 90's the only reason Warcraft was created was because Blizzard was turned down on their pitch to create a Warhammer video game.

All you have to do is look at some Warhammer game books and miniatures, and you can see where Warcraft got its influence for art style. Over time, Warcraft's artwork has evolved to be more vibrant and cartoonier than Warhammer's.

However, lots of people have played World of Warcraft, and not so many people are even aware that Warhammer was a tabletop game system or even existed before the 90's. These are the people that wrongly accuse Warhammer of ripping off Warcraft's graphic style. (Although they are certainly ripping off a lot of UI and gameplay conventions, that were in turned ripped off from other companies by Blizzard)

Now we have successfully hijacked the thread topic completely :/

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ph4nt on 11 September 2008

Lolcislaw said:
poor Rare why no one believes them? World is so Cruel

No one believes them because they lied.

Off topic. Warhammer devs were stupid for not letting Blizzard use the license, Warcraft >>>>>>>>>>>warhammer = crap.

And who cares if the universes are so similar, it's the gameplay that counts, and Warcraft wins.

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heruamon on 11 September 2008

Sansui said:

heruamon said:

Gnizmo said:

heruamon said:

Sansui said:
Whether true or not, no one will care.

Just like people are already ripping on Warhammer Online for "copying" World of Warcraft's style.... when World of Warcraft copied Warhammer's style to begin with.

How did WoW copy Warhammer's style?

WoW did not copy Warhammers style at allreally. What it did do was take Warcraft and pu it into an MMO form. Warcraft was originally going to be a Warhammer game, but the owners of Warhammer backed out before release and Blizzard simply renamed everything and pushed forward. So Warcraft is essentially a huge rip off of Warhammer.

So, Warhammer has titans and demons? See...once again, HOW are they similiar...lore? classes? I'm not asking for the histroy...I know that, I'm asking about technically, how are the 2 the same? What's in WoW, that you see and it's like...that's STRAIGHT from Warhammer? That's what I've been trying to understand for a long time now, because I see nearly nothing....and I play WoW, and I'm in WAR's beta...I'm not seeing it.

Listen champ. I played Warcraft too (for two completely wasted years of my life), and I've played the Warhammer beta AND tabletop games. Was guildmaster of a guild in WoW, that at it's height, was 31st in the WORLD in terms of raid progress, both horde and alliance. Don't get your undies in a wad cause I said Warcraft ripped off Warhammer's art style and you can't see it.

The Warhammer 'universe' has been around for a long time, since the early 80's. In the 90's the only reason Warcraft was created was because Blizzard was turned down on their pitch to create a Warhammer video game.

All you have to do is look at some Warhammer game books and miniatures, and you can see where Warcraft got its influence for art style. Over time, Warcraft's artwork has evolved to be more vibrant and cartoonier than Warhammer's.

However, lots of people have played World of Warcraft, and not so many people are even aware that Warhammer was a tabletop game system or even existed before the 90's. These are the people that wrongly accuse Warhammer of ripping off Warcraft's graphic style. (Although they are certainly ripping off a lot of UI and gameplay conventions, that were in turned ripped off from other companies by Blizzard)

Now we have successfully hijacked the thread topic completely :/

Well, seems that you're the champ, not me...as I've never only been on 2 raids...but you stil ldidn't answer my question.

Anyway, back to my topic's title...If people want to get all excited about Avatars skimping off Wii...I don't see a bunch of people crying about Home looking like Second Life? To all the people whining about Avatars, just stfu, since you can say this. what has nintendo DONE with Miis? Play wii sports with my little mii that isn't very customizable?

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Gnizmo on 11 September 2008

heruamon said:

So, Warhammer has titans and demons? See...once again, HOW are they similiar...lore? classes? I'm not asking for the histroy...I know that, I'm asking about technically, how are the 2 the same? What's in WoW, that you see and it's like...that's STRAIGHT from Warhammer? That's what I've been trying to understand for a long time now, because I see nearly nothing....and I play WoW, and I'm in WAR's beta...I'm not seeing it.

The units, story, and setting for the first Warcraft were all ripped straight from Warhammer. I am not going to list every individual change for you. You wanna know well I can tell you the information is out there. Warcraft simply would not exist without War Hammer.

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Sansui on 11 September 2008

heruamon said:

Well, seems that you're the champ, not me...as I've never only been on 2 raids...but you stil ldidn't answer my question.

Anyway, back to my topic's title...If people want to get all excited about Avatars skimping off Wii...I don't see a bunch of people crying about Home looking like Second Life? To all the people whining about Avatars, just stfu, since you can say this. what has nintendo DONE with Miis? Play wii sports with my little mii that isn't very customizable?

Actually no, being a raider in WoW makes you a loser :( And for two years, I was as big a loser as you can get in WoW. I am fully rehabilitated now though, been clean for almost 18 months

And I did answer your question. Warcraft's original art style, and subsequent evolution, was a ripoff of Warhammer's art style from the tabletop books, miniatures, and concept art. Not vice versa, as many claim.