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Film cells translated to a higher definition is more like an actual film projection than SD.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

Reels of film actually have an incredibly high resolution, often higher than you can fit on a Blu-Ray disc if you made a perfect translation of that film digitally. If you have an original negative, inter-positive, or other "higher level" film reproduction of the original, then you can get a pretty solid picture.

Unfortunately, film isn't as reliable of a medium in terms of longevity as digital film is, so whenever you get a digital remaster and they couldn't find a good source, you can often tell.

However, if you have a really talented team of remastering people with a good budget (such as those who Criterion employs or hires out), even a reel in poor condition can look pretty damn good.



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is it real hd or just brighter?



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Real film doesn't deal with pixels. It deals with millimeters. The resolution of real film (when shot on good film with good lighting) is better than any digital film. TVs just never look as good as IMAX films. The concept of "real HD" doesn't make any sense. It's a digital-only buzzword that some HD companies use to make other slightly less HD companies look bad. It's meaningless, like somebody making a hardcore game and then calling somebody else casual. I guess all film would be HD if you absolutely had to call it that.



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film can transfer much higher resolutions than blu-rays 1920x1080 images. people seem to think that digital images have higher resolutions than film, but that absolutely is not true.



chapset said:
is it real hd or just brighter?

I agree with Rubang, its all is just buzzwords.  Now it is accurate that people look at 1080P as THE HD standard, because the human eye really can't tell much of a difference if you go higher, or unless you have a 150" screen.

But digital stuff has really made a huge difference.  I guarantee hi-def transfers of movies like Speed Racer and The Dark Knight will look phenomenal on Blu-Ray, as well as on the big screen because they were shot with hi-def cameras.

Digital projectors in theaters make a humongous difference too, and maintain detail on the screen much better when the camera pans from side to side or when there is a lot of movement on the screen.

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

My dad works in video editing, and apparently HD has been common for about a couple of decades especially in places like Japan.

In fact even Betacam (not betamax) had a HD cousin, and was released in 1997!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betacam

And VHS did aswell, albeit only 720p

Also, 35mm film pretty much = HD



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If you're getting really complicated, the highest resolution you can get with film depends on the size of the crystals used, however, smaller crystals get less light, so are less sensitive to light. I don't know exactly, but I presume the crystals used must be something like a few micro meters.

So the crystals used, are if you like the pixels.