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Strategyking92 said:
BottledSpringWater said:

Never seen that :O

Whip it out, big guy :P

 

yes whip it out.

 

The bioshock ones weren't glitches.... or were they? Sometimes the body swing a little bit when they land in a weird area.

Anyway, I though the soccer glitches were the funniest. I mean, how does a soccer game get glitches like that?

And besides, regarding the "cone kill", that wasn't a glitch. Bungie takes their physics very seriously I guess. Look up the kills when someone stickies another players' sticky grenade and he ends up commiting suicide. Just bad timing.

 

 

there are a ton of rocket glitches actually. Never realized there was as many as i just found... lol



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BenKenobi88 said:
I'll be staying...

 This thread didn't help at all did it?



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BenKenobi88 said:
I'll be staying...

Dammit



Gnizmo said:
BenKenobi88 said:
I'll be staying...

 This thread didn't help at all did it?

 

actualy it probably did considering the amount of PC defence going on



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JaggedSac said:
ssj12 said:
JaggedSac said:

In 2 months CoD4(a year old game), is going to make up that much ground on the 360 version.  I looked at Steam's numbers, and am not impressed.  The number of people playing is just unimpressive.  If people download the game on Steam, I would expect them to play on Steam.  But there are only 800 people playing it online right now.  Hell the 360 version has at least 170,000 people on it right now(I say this because that is how much Halo 3 has and CoD4 has retaken the Live lead).  There is not a chance in hell that CoD4 has overtaken the sales of the 360 version.  Just admit it.  This is not a knock against pc gaming(I enjoy pc games), just posters who refuse to admit something that is obvious.

 

 

You have to remember that TF2 is it on the online curcuit for PC right now, COD4 is basically out the door. There are still people who love it, hence the 8000 people, and people who wil jump in and out of it randomly to get a change of pace but really there are so many online options PC gamers have there is no single reason to jsut play COD4 or Halo 3 all year long.

PC gets online games released almost every week that people do buy and enjoy. Consoles only get maybe 20 great online games a year, PC gets nearly a hundred. There is a major difference in the amount of people playing online. And this does not include MMOs like World of Warcrack.

Current Players Peak Today Game
52,006 80,635 Counter-Strike: Source
42,659 66,753 Counter-Strike
16,409 20,357 Team Fortress 2
6,628 12,248 Condition Zero
4,870 5,741 Garry's Mod
4,615 7,067 Day of Defeat: Source
2,168 2,878 Half-Life 2
1,785 2,794 Half-Life 2: Deathmatch
1,683 2,362 Day of Defeat
971 1,132 Portal
844 1,105 Half-Life 2: Episode Two
834 1,399 TrackMania Nations Forever
764 928 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare

Not 8000, 800.

That's only through Steam, so it's not a decent indicative (though COD4's numbers there are lower than I thought). XFire is a better way to see the game's popularity:

COD4 - #2 in the Total Rank
XFire user playing per day: 146k
Minutes played per day: 16 millions

And that is only from XFire users, because the vast majority that plays COD4 probably don't even use XFire.

No other game has as much XFire users playing every day than COD4. Take World of Warcraft for example, it has around 11 millions active players and only around 90k of them use XFire:

World of Warcraft - #2 in the Total Rank
XFire user playing per day: 90k
Minutes played per day: 20 millions

Of course MMO players usually don't care as much about XFire, and many of them are asians, which care even less so it's not really an accurate proportion. As for other FPS games, COD2 has 80k XFirers playing every day, CS: Source only has 35k, and the rest 20k or below. But I do know an FPS that we can compare with COD4, which is Quake Wars:

Enemy Territory: Quake Wars - #117 in the Total Rank
XFire user playing per day: 784
Minutes played per day: 76k

A far cry from COD4, but we can accurately see how low the percentage of XFire users are there. In the official site of Quake Wars, they show the amount of people that played today and how many registered an account (stats.enemyterritory.com):

Players Today: 9,169
Total Players: 347,189

So XFire users are only 8.6% of total players in Quake Wars.... If we extrapolate that percentage to the 146k XFirers from COD4 we get 1.7 millions people still enjoying COD4 every day.... and if we try to get a rough estimate of total accounts made for COD4 by using QW's data:

9,169  -  1.7 millions
347k   -  COD4_Total_Accounts

COD4_Total_Accounts = 64 millions!!!!!

Remove the secondary accounts that many people create, and eliminate teh pirates, and let's say we get around 10-15 millions copies of PC COD4 sold!!!

 

PS: My post might be full of crap, but atleast I tried.



shio said:
JaggedSac said:
ssj12 said:
JaggedSac said:

In 2 months CoD4(a year old game), is going to make up that much ground on the 360 version.  I looked at Steam's numbers, and am not impressed.  The number of people playing is just unimpressive.  If people download the game on Steam, I would expect them to play on Steam.  But there are only 800 people playing it online right now.  Hell the 360 version has at least 170,000 people on it right now(I say this because that is how much Halo 3 has and CoD4 has retaken the Live lead).  There is not a chance in hell that CoD4 has overtaken the sales of the 360 version.  Just admit it.  This is not a knock against pc gaming(I enjoy pc games), just posters who refuse to admit something that is obvious.

 

 

You have to remember that TF2 is it on the online curcuit for PC right now, COD4 is basically out the door. There are still people who love it, hence the 8000 people, and people who wil jump in and out of it randomly to get a change of pace but really there are so many online options PC gamers have there is no single reason to jsut play COD4 or Halo 3 all year long.

PC gets online games released almost every week that people do buy and enjoy. Consoles only get maybe 20 great online games a year, PC gets nearly a hundred. There is a major difference in the amount of people playing online. And this does not include MMOs like World of Warcrack.

Current Players Peak Today Game
52,006 80,635 Counter-Strike: Source
42,659 66,753 Counter-Strike
16,409 20,357 Team Fortress 2
6,628 12,248 Condition Zero
4,870 5,741 Garry's Mod
4,615 7,067 Day of Defeat: Source
2,168 2,878 Half-Life 2
1,785 2,794 Half-Life 2: Deathmatch
1,683 2,362 Day of Defeat
971 1,132 Portal
844 1,105 Half-Life 2: Episode Two
834 1,399 TrackMania Nations Forever
764 928 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare

Not 8000, 800.

That's only through Steam, so it's not a decent indicative (though COD4's numbers there are lower than I thought). XFire is a better way to see the game's popularity:

COD4 - #2 in the Total Rank
XFire user playing per day: 146k
Minutes played per day: 16 millions

And that is only from XFire users, because the vast majority that plays COD4 probably don't even use XFire.

No other game has as much XFire users playing every day than COD4. Take World of Warcraft for example, it has around 11 millions active players and only around 90k of them use XFire:

World of Warcraft - #2 in the Total Rank
XFire user playing per day: 90k
Minutes played per day: 20 millions

Of course MMO players usually don't care as much about XFire, and many of them are asians, which care even less so it's not really an accurate proportion. As for other FPS games, COD2 has 80k XFirers playing every day, CS: Source only has 35k, and the rest 20k or below. But I do know an FPS that we can compare with COD4, which is Quake Wars:

Enemy Territory: Quake Wars - #117 in the Total Rank
XFire user playing per day: 784
Minutes played per day: 76k

A far cry from COD4, but we can accurately see how low the percentage of XFire users are there. In the official site of Quake Wars, they show the amount of people that played today and how many registered an account (stats.enemyterritory.com):

Players Today: 9,169
Total Players: 347,189

So XFire users are only 8.6% of total players in Quake Wars.... If we extrapolate that percentage to the 146k XFirers from COD4 we get 1.7 millions people still enjoying COD4 every day.... and if we try to get a rough estimate of total accounts made for COD4 by using QW's data:

9,169  -  1.7 millions
347k   -  COD4_Total_Accounts

COD4_Total_Accounts = 64 millions!!!!!

Remove the secondary accounts that many people create, and eliminate teh pirates, and let's say we get around 10-15 millions copies of PC COD4 sold!!!

 

PS: My post might be full of crap, but atleast I tried.


the total accounts is completely off but the Xfire stats are real and all that matter. Xfire really isnt a small chat utility. PC userbase is probably more around like 8 - 9m.



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@SSJ12

That's why I said "Remove the secondary accounts that many people create, and eliminate teh pirates", because that's the sensible thing to do and so we could decrease the 64 millions of total accounts to 10-15 million sales of COD4 PC.

It's a very rough estimate anyway, but it does show of big COD4 is doing.



Soriku said:
What do you expect? This site tracks consoles sales, not PC sales. This isn't a PC site.

But don't leave! :(

 

I see your point and I understand that the aim of the site is to track Console game sales. But the site is called Video Game Chartz, not Console Game Chartz. Maybe it should track PC games as well.

 

Now as for leaving the site. The problem you speak of, fanboys hating on PC, is probably going to be on a large majority of sites you visit. It's sad, I know, but it's the unfortunate reality of the situation. Some people just cant handle other peoples opinions differentiating from their own.

If the site starts tracking PC games, that would only mean that more PC gamers would be on the site. Sure you'd get more PC discussion going in the forums, that's definitely a positive. But the problem of fanboys would not go away, there would only be more PC owners to retaliate (If they choose to retaliate).

We can only discourage fanboism and hope that people can just accept other peoples opinions.

Anyway, I hope you stay on the forums. We need some PC gamers to keep us alert to whats happening with the PC.



Gnosis said:
Soriku said:
What do you expect? This site tracks consoles sales, not PC sales. This isn't a PC site.

But don't leave! :(

 

I see your point and I understand that the aim of the site is to track Console game sales. But the site is called Video Game Chartz, not Console Game Chartz. Maybe it should track PC games as well.

 

Now as for leaving the site. The problem you speak of, fanboys hating on PC, is probably going to be on a large majority of sites you visit. It's sad, I know, but it's the unfortunate reality of the situation. Some people just cant handle other peoples opinions differentiating from their own.

If the site starts tracking PC games, that would only mean that more PC gamers would be on the site. Sure you'd get more PC discussion going in the forums, that's definitely a positive. But the problem of fanboys would not go away, there would only be more PC owners to retaliate (If they choose to retaliate).

We can only discourage fanboism and hope that people can just accept other peoples opinions.

Anyway, I hope you stay on the forums. We need some PC gamers to keep us alert to whats happening with the PC.

 

PC gaming is HARD to track. Plus it is impossible to get information based on digital downloads so PC tracking is practically screwed.



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