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Griffin on 03 September 2008
kowenicki said:
For some reason those links dont work but trust me they illustrate things very well... The Viva Pinata one is very surprising.

 

The links work, you just need to edit the name line slightly to see the graph.  I don't see how the graphs prove anything, Forza2 was bundled with all pro consoles when Microsoft stuffed the channel late last year.  You could buy their Holiday bundle until April.  Gears2 had a massive ad campaign and was just about the only good 360 game when it came out.  Viva was bundled with 360's and has been a bargin bin price for ever, you can see Ratchet blows it away for the same length on the market.  And comparing anything but other massive games to Halo is just crazy.



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TRios_Zen on 03 September 2008

Given that multiplat games always sell more on the 360 (given the larger install base and whatnot), wouldn't a more accurate recommendation to developers be: "You better think twice about making any game PS3 exclusive"?



thekitchensink on 03 September 2008

Lol at the Tales of Vesperia one. It's only been out in Japan, and only for three weeks, and yet it's sold to around 20% of the 360's userbase there XD



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gimmebanana on 03 September 2008
TRios_Zen said:
Given that multiplat games always sell more on the 360 (given the larger install base and whatnot), wouldn't a more accurate recommendation to developers be: "You better think twice about making any game PS3 exclusive"?

 

 like i stated early in the thread .. if it was possible that would be fine with me, but the 360 cant comprihend the data of some games made for the ps3

plus ... ,GTA4, Assasins creed , COD4 are well in the millions mark on both consoles

DMC & soul cal are about same  these games are doing well at launch and well after

my focus is on the games with a slow start .. that could have been better off multi to start with



Million on 03 September 2008
DirtyP2002 said:
davygee said:
kowenicki said:
Selective? Just a tad!!

Heres a test for you, put the top 4 PS3 exclusives so far againt the top 4 360 exclusives so far. Should be a good comparison.. btw I havent checked.. I'll leave it to you. And yes, 360 exclusive DOES mean console exclusive - so you can include gears.

If you consider the 360 had 12 months (15 in Europe) longer on the market and had 7m units on the market before the PS3 even hit, then the PS3 compares very favourably.

See below:

360 PS3
1 Halo 3 - 8.17m Motorstorm - 3.44m
2 Gears of War - 5.22m Metal Gear Solid 4 - 3.12m
3 Forza Motorsport 2 - 3.99m Resistance: Fall of Man - 3.06m
4 Mass Effect - 2m Gran Turismo 5 Prologue - 1.98m
5 Saints Row - 1.94m Uncharted Drake's Fortune - 1.74m
6 Dead Rising - 1.76m Ratchet & Clank Future - 1.30m
7 Crackdown - 1.47m Heavenly Sword - 1.16m
8 Project Gotham Racing 3 - 1.46m Hot Shots Golf - 0.64m
9 Viva Pinata - 1.46m Ridge Racer 7 - 0.64m
10 Perfect Dark Zero - 1.42m Dynasty Warriors 6 - 0.59m

 

 It was around 5 million. Pretty much the same like today

Comparing the internaly developed games for the 360 to the internaly developed games for the PS3 , i'd say that Sony would be less effected if all developers had a policy of multiplatform releases. Obviously with moneyhatts and publishing deals that won't be the case.

 




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disolitude on 03 September 2008
Million said:
DirtyP2002 said:
davygee said:
kowenicki said:
Selective? Just a tad!!

Heres a test for you, put the top 4 PS3 exclusives so far againt the top 4 360 exclusives so far. Should be a good comparison.. btw I havent checked.. I'll leave it to you. And yes, 360 exclusive DOES mean console exclusive - so you can include gears.

If you consider the 360 had 12 months (15 in Europe) longer on the market and had 7m units on the market before the PS3 even hit, then the PS3 compares very favourably.

See below:

  360 PS3
1 Halo 3 - 8.17m Motorstorm - 3.44m
2 Gears of War - 5.22m Metal Gear Solid 4 - 3.12m
3 Forza Motorsport 2 - 3.99m Resistance: Fall of Man - 3.06m
4 Mass Effect - 2m Gran Turismo 5 Prologue - 1.98m
5 Saints Row - 1.94m Uncharted Drake's Fortune - 1.74m
6 Dead Rising - 1.76m Ratchet & Clank Future - 1.30m
7 Crackdown - 1.47m Heavenly Sword - 1.16m
8 Project Gotham Racing 3 - 1.46m Hot Shots Golf - 0.64m
9 Viva Pinata - 1.46m Ridge Racer 7 - 0.64m
10 Perfect Dark Zero - 1.42m Dynasty Warriors 6 - 0.59m

 

 It was around 5 million. Pretty much the same like today

Comparing the internaly developed games for the 360 to the internaly developed games for the PS3 , i'd say that Sony would be less effected if all developers had a policy of multiplatform releases. Obviously with moneyhatts and publishing deals that won't be the case.

 

thats great and all but Hevenly Sword, Ratchet and Resistance are not "internally developed" games.



TRios_Zen on 03 September 2008
gimmebanana said:
TRios_Zen said:
Given that multiplat games always sell more on the 360 (given the larger install base and whatnot), wouldn't a more accurate recommendation to developers be: "You better think twice about making any game PS3 exclusive"?

 

 like i stated early in the thread .. if it was possible that would be fine with me, but the 360 cant comprihend the data of some games made for the ps3

plus ... ,GTA4, Assasins creed , COD4 are well in the millions mark on both consoles

DMC & soul cal are about same  these games are doing well at launch and well after

my focus is on the games with a slow start .. that could have been better off multi to start with

For the most part, I understand what you are trying to say here. 

The "but the 360 cant comprihend [sic] the data of some games made for the ps3" part...well...HAHA, if you want to believe that, knock yourself out.

I think the same could be said (sales wise) of any non-multiplat game; for instance IF MGS4 HAD (NOT starting the MGS4 is coming to 360 thread again) gone multiplat, what do you think the sales would have been?  PLEASE, please, I'm not suggesting it is, that thread is TOTALLY worn out.

 



Squilliam on 03 September 2008
Million said:
DirtyP2002 said:
davygee said:
kowenicki said:
Selective? Just a tad!!

Heres a test for you, put the top 4 PS3 exclusives so far againt the top 4 360 exclusives so far. Should be a good comparison.. btw I havent checked.. I'll leave it to you. And yes, 360 exclusive DOES mean console exclusive - so you can include gears.

If you consider the 360 had 12 months (15 in Europe) longer on the market and had 7m units on the market before the PS3 even hit, then the PS3 compares very favourably.

See below:

  360 PS3
1 Halo 3 - 8.17m Motorstorm - 3.44m
2 Gears of War - 5.22m Metal Gear Solid 4 - 3.12m
3 Forza Motorsport 2 - 3.99m Resistance: Fall of Man - 3.06m
4 Mass Effect - 2m Gran Turismo 5 Prologue - 1.98m
5 Saints Row - 1.94m Uncharted Drake's Fortune - 1.74m
6 Dead Rising - 1.76m Ratchet & Clank Future - 1.30m
7 Crackdown - 1.47m Heavenly Sword - 1.16m
8 Project Gotham Racing 3 - 1.46m Hot Shots Golf - 0.64m
9 Viva Pinata - 1.46m Ridge Racer 7 - 0.64m
10 Perfect Dark Zero - 1.42m Dynasty Warriors 6 - 0.59m

 

 It was around 5 million. Pretty much the same like today

Comparing the internaly developed games for the 360 to the internaly developed games for the PS3 , i'd say that Sony would be less effected if all developers had a policy of multiplatform releases. Obviously with moneyhatts and publishing deals that won't be the case.

 

Heavenly Sword was slated for an Xbox 1 release.

Insomniac is 2nd party.

 



Tease.

gimmebanana on 03 September 2008
TRios_Zen said:
gimmebanana said:
TRios_Zen said:
Given that multiplat games always sell more on the 360 (given the larger install base and whatnot), wouldn't a more accurate recommendation to developers be: "You better think twice about making any game PS3 exclusive"?

 

 like i stated early in the thread .. if it was possible that would be fine with me, but the 360 cant comprihend the data of some games made for the ps3

plus ... ,GTA4, Assasins creed , COD4 are well in the millions mark on both consoles

DMC & soul cal are about same  these games are doing well at launch and well after

my focus is on the games with a slow start .. that could have been better off multi to start with

For the most part, I understand what you are trying to say here. 

The "but the 360 cant comprihend [sic] the data of some games made for the ps3" part...well...HAHA, if you want to believe that, knock yourself out.

I think the same could be said (sales wise) of any non-multiplat game; for instance IF MGS4 HAD (NOT starting the MGS4 is coming to 360 thread again) gone multiplat, what do you think the sales would have been?  PLEASE, please, I'm not suggesting it is, that thread is TOTALLY worn out.

 

 

 im sure it would of added a couple more millions to the sale ! but still 360 cant handle such a game



Resident_Hazard on 03 September 2008

Just because an exclusive title doesn't sell well on the Xbox360 doesn't mean it's going to sell better had it been multiplatform.

Not all exclusive titles reach success.

Just another anti-Xbox360 thread.