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Sony: PS2 Motion Controller Not Happening

In response to the Electronic Gaming Monthly rumor that Sony is prepping a Wii-like controller for PlayStation 2 to be released this holiday, Sony has sent Game|Life the following statement:

"This rumor is absolutely not true. There are currently no plans to add motion-sensing capability to the PlayStation 2 controller."

Note that this is a categorial denial, not the standard "we don't comment on rumors or speculation." If they're being totally straightforward here, good.

Opinion: If Sony Releases a Wii-Like Controller...

The rumors section in the latest issue of Electronic Gaming Monthly says that Sony will be "retrofitting" the PlayStation 2 console with a Wii-style motion sensing controller by Christmas.

Yes, this is just a rumor for the time being, but EGM's got a pretty good track record. I really hope for Sony's sake, though, that this isn't true. If so, it would be strong evidence that Sony is a company without a rudder. Without a clear vision of the future. With no idea which way the wind is blowing. A follower, not a leader.

First off, let's define what exactly we're talking about here. I don't think simply releasing a Wii-like controller as a seperate accessory would accomplish what they're hoping to do here. I think the thought process is that if Sony can actually reposition the PlayStation 2 as a direct knockoff of the Wii at a cheaper price point -- dropping the price below $100, packing in a controller with functionality identical to a Wiimote/nunchuk setup -- they can take some of the wind out of Wii's sails with the strong PlayStation branding and a much lower price point.

What this will really do is validate Nintendo's strategy. Even now, there are still quite a few people who believe that Nintendo's bubble is ready to burst at any moment. But if Sony follows right behind them, all that's going to do is solidify Nintendo's position. If Sony goes forward with such a product, they'll be sending a very strong message to consumers that Nintendo was right all along and that this is the wave of the future.

Even if Sony does end up taking away some of Nintendo's sales, there's no historical precedent to suggest that a latecomer to a disruptive technology concept ever gets more than a sliver of marketshare. And again: the boost to Nintendo's visibility that such a move would entail means that they could very well end up selling more, not fewer, Wiis.

Not to mention the fact that PlayStation 2 is really supposed to be selling itself by now. Its salad days are over, and Sony can sit back and rake in money from back catalog sales and profitable hardware. But by launching a whole new suite of software and a brand new controller, Sony's got to pour lots more money and effort into PS2. This is effort that they're not spending on PSP and PS3. I'm sure Microsoft would absolutely love to hear an announcement like this, because anything that distracts Sony from PS3 is awesome for the Xbox 360.

And this is all assuming that Sony actually does a perfect job of replicating the Wii package. What if the controller isn't as good? What if there's not nearly enough software, and no killer app? Nintendo had to devote the entirety of their company to this broad suite of different goals that had to be executed on perfectly. Can Sony really replicate that?

The best thing that Sony can do right now is stick to their guns: that Wii is a great product for right now, but that PlayStation 3 represents the future, and that the most powerful hardware with the highest-def games will win the day. I might not agree with this position, but it's the best one they've got.

For their sake, I hope this turns out to be one of the rare times when EGM's rumor page has it totally wrong.

Just thought I should point this out.

 

 

 

 



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DonWii said:
1700 posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Slow day....

Wow ... You'll pass me soon



HappySqurriel said:
DonWii said:
1700 posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Slow day....

Wow ... You'll pass me soon


 Well, 200 of my posts come from the "Say something about the person posting above yo" thread, so I am sure you have more informative posts than I do. Or DO you???



DonWii said:
HappySqurriel said:
DonWii said:
1700 posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Slow day....

Wow ... You'll pass me soon


 Well, 200 of my posts come from the "Say something about the person posting above yo" thread, so I am sure you have more informative posts than I do. Or DO you???


I think I may have 5 or 6 posts with real information in them ...



HappySqurriel said:
DonWii said:
HappySqurriel said:
DonWii said:
1700 posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Slow day....

Wow ... You'll pass me soon


Well, 200 of my posts come from the "Say something about the person posting above yo" thread, so I am sure you have more informative posts than I do. Or DO you???


I think I may have 5 or 6 posts with real information in them ...

much like your achievements in this thread ;)

 



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NorthStar said:
shams said:

Won't happen - it would surely hurt Sony too much (admitting Nintendo was right, Sony was wrong). Will damage the PS3, and boost Wii sales in the long term.

 - no existing games would support it

 - gfx on a PS2 SUCK compared to other consoles these days. It couldn't even handle a decent WiiSports type game.

 - sensor bar? Or would it have no pointer? With no pointer it IS a SIXAXIS controller (except for shape).

...

Sony would be better off to release their own "PS3Sports", that purely uses the Sixaxis movement - maybe in a shell of some sort. Then they could promote the better gfx, better online play, more content, etc. 


Wait I thought the SMALL gfx difference wouldn't matter . PLEASE DO NOT TELL ME A WII owner cares about Graphics. I sure would like the folks at nintendo to bring up the graphical differences between the PS2 and the Wii.


Just because Wii owners don't hold graphics as the highest measure doesn't mean they or anyone else are willing to take three steps backwards when the PS2's successor is still there in plain sight.

The graphical differences between the PS2 and GC were monumental (and easily forgetable given the tricks developers learned to hide the PS2's shortcommings graphically over six years) and the differences between the PS2 and Wii are even greater. Just because the Wii has had its share of crappy PS2 ports doesn't mean its graphics are of that standard. People have formed a rather popular misconception that the Wii is Ps2 quality, which is just silly. Arguably there is a smaller gap between the graphics of the Wii and 360 than there was between the Ps2 and Gamecube. Lazy developers, unprepaired developers, casual mini-gmes and bad ports have obscured the Wii's true potential and given over-eager Nintendo critics the perception that the Wii was barely PS2 level and all too easily forgot the well known gap between the potential of the PS2 and the Wii's lesser, the GC, last gen.



This is really more like a community thread anyway.

PS2 Waggle Wand? Yes it would be a shameful ripoff. If it is a pointer to, SHAME ON SONY. Technically it could work on PS3

That being said I am not a Fanboy, and I would buy it anyway. More waggle the merrier.

(It's not happening though, not yet and not this similar to Wiimote. PS4 or PS3-2000. I kill me.)



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

Pretty sad when one guy posts his opinion and 5 Wii fanboys have to complain this thread is still going to each other for half the page.



DonWii said:
1700 posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Slow day....

Indeed, and you should probably be reported for half of your posts in this thread. 



LeroyBrown said:
NorthStar said:
shams said:

Won't happen - it would surely hurt Sony too much (admitting Nintendo was right, Sony was wrong). Will damage the PS3, and boost Wii sales in the long term.

- no existing games would support it

- gfx on a PS2 SUCK compared to other consoles these days. It couldn't even handle a decent WiiSports type game.

- sensor bar? Or would it have no pointer? With no pointer it IS a SIXAXIS controller (except for shape).

...

Sony would be better off to release their own "PS3Sports", that purely uses the Sixaxis movement - maybe in a shell of some sort. Then they could promote the better gfx, better online play, more content, etc.


Wait I thought the SMALL gfx difference wouldn't matter . PLEASE DO NOT TELL ME A WII owner cares about Graphics. I sure would like the folks at nintendo to bring up the graphical differences between the PS2 and the Wii.


Just because Wii owners don't hold graphics as the highest measure doesn't mean they or anyone else are willing to take three steps backwards when the PS2's successor is still there in plain sight.

The graphical differences between the PS2 and GC were monumental (and easily forgetable given the tricks developers learned to hide the PS2's shortcommings graphically over six years) and the differences between the PS2 and Wii are even greater. Just because the Wii has had its share of crappy PS2 ports doesn't mean its graphics are of that standard. People have formed a rather popular misconception that the Wii is Ps2 quality, which is just silly. Arguably there is a smaller gap between the graphics of the Wii and 360 than there was between the Ps2 and Gamecube. Lazy developers, unprepaired developers, casual mini-gmes and bad ports have obscured the Wii's true potential and given over-eager Nintendo critics the perception that the Wii was barely PS2 level and all too easily forgot the well known gap between the potential of the PS2 and the Wii's lesser, the GC, last gen.


Developers have confirmed that the Wii is as powerful as the Xbox 1.  The gap from Wii to 360 and especially PS3 is far greater than the Wii to PS2.  The Wii is last gen technology with a new controller, which is what a new PS2 controller would make.