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I am not because I am a constitutionalist, and his politics are the farthest away from my political beliefs. He wants the US to become more like Europe. I don't



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Because I believe in his policies.



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Kasz216 said:
Issues.

Pretty much...
An iraq plan that is different from what the Iraqi's want. We caused the problem, we should do whatever they want to fix it.

 

Um, what?



 

Sam Yikin said:
Kasz216 said:
Issues.

Pretty much...
An iraq plan that is different from what the Iraqi's want. We caused the problem, we should do whatever they want to fix it.

Um, what?

 

Exactly what it says.  The plan the Iraqi's want... and John McCain supports is the one that's going to be signed into effect. Though likely disregarded if Obama is president.

American troops out of Iraqi cities by 2009 but in bases just in case the Iraqi security teams can't handle it.

Then out by during 2011... assuming everything goes as well as expected.

Obama's plan is to yank the troops out earlier... regardless of whether the Iraqi security forces are trained enough to do the job to maintain Iraqi stability.

I mean... if they wanted us to pull out that'd be the first thing the government would do... the whole thing is a waste of money... and nothing would deflate the Obama campaign harder.

Though honestly the Neo-cons would probably perfer Obama win.  That way they could keep control of the republican party rather then McCain be in control since he's a lot closer to the traditional conservatives... and really even closer to an independent then that.

 



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HappySqurriel said:

Because I'm not an American

 

Agreed



The area Obama's views and my views are most congruous is foreign policy, but I still disagree with him on a number of foreign policy issues. I disagree with him on economic issues (minimum wage, EFCA and somewhat on taxation), energy policy (cap-and-trade vs emissions tax), some social issues (abortion), and a myriad of other issues. That is the reason why I will not be voting for Obama...the issues.



I can't vote yet, but I would vote for him if I could.



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I like McCain and hs policies more.



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Kasz216 said:

 

Sam Yikin said:
Kasz216 said:
Issues.

Pretty much...
An iraq plan that is different from what the Iraqi's want. We caused the problem, we should do whatever they want to fix it.

Um, what?

 

Exactly what it says.  The plan the Iraqi's want... and John McCain supports is the one that's going to be signed into effect. Though likely disregarded if Obama is president.

American troops out of Iraqi cities by 2009 but in bases just in case the Iraqi security teams can't handle it.

Then out by during 2011... assuming everything goes as well as expected.

Obama's plan is to yank the troops out earlier... regardless of whether the Iraqi security forces are trained enough to do the job to maintain Iraqi stability.

I mean... if they wanted us to pull out that'd be the first thing the government would do... the whole thing is a waste of money... and nothing would deflate the Obama campaign harder.

Though honestly the Neo-cons would probably perfer Obama win.  That way they could keep control of the republican party rather then McCain be in control since he's a lot closer to the traditional conservatives... and really even closer to an independent then that.

 

 

The war is a non issue. It's what democrats use to get into office. Congress has been democratically controller for years now, and we sent more troops.

Whoever is president will do whatever kills the least amount of people, and that's to stay.

Obama is no different then any other politician. He will lie, steal, and cheat to get into office. He will tell you whatever he needs to to get your vote. Nothing more, nothing less.