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I can't vote for Barack because his original 'solution' for Iraq would have been to pull the troops out when things were going somewhat bad, wait for things to get REALLY bad, then put them back in so even more could die, and Iraq could stay in chaos longer. Great, let's get out, let the pot start boiling, then jump back in. Brilliant reasoning Barack!, (that surge idea could never work anyway)

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amp316 said:
I'm voting for Impulsivity. Happy Squirrel must have the hots for Anne Coulter or something.

Thank you for your brilliant contribution.



You're welcome. Thank you for contributing to taking money out of my pocket by voting for McCain.



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amp316 said:
I'm voting for Impulsivity. Happy Squirrel must have the hots for Anne Coulter or something.

 

Nope ...

When I was younger, I spent years working full time while going to school full time in order to get two degrees (a degree in Pure Mathematics and a degree in Computer Science, neither of which is necessarily an "Easy" degree) and have spent years working long hours to build a reputation and 'pay my dues' only to hear about how 'unfair' the world is because people who spent their youth partying don't earn as much as I do ...

 

I'm not against paying higher taxes to help people out, and I'm entirely happy to give to charity, but eventually enough is enough and you have to say "This is my money, I sacrificed to get it, keep your fucking greedy hands off of it"



HappySqurriel said:
amp316 said:
I'm voting for Impulsivity. Happy Squirrel must have the hots for Anne Coulter or something.

 

Nope ...

When I was younger, I spent years working full time while going to school full time in order to get two degrees (a degree in Pure Mathematics and a degree in Computer Science, neither of which is necessarily an "Easy" degree) and have spent years working long hours to build a reputation and 'pay my dues' only to hear about how 'unfair' the world is because people who spent their youth partying don't earn as much as I do ...

 

I'm not against paying higher taxes to help people out, and I'm entirely happy to give to charity, but eventually enough is enough and you have to say "This is my money, I sacrificed to get it, keep your fucking greedy hands off of it"

 

So everyone that has a lot of money killed themselves to get it and people that don't make as much partied too much and didn't pay their dues?  This is a load of crap.  Most of the people with a lot of money didn't earn it.  They inherited it.  You know that I'm right.  Most of the people truly killing themselves and getting bad backs (if that's not paying dues I don't know what is)  don't make nearly as much money.  The people that partied to much as you call it do all of the work for people that you claim have payed there dues.

 

Also, I've had Anne Couler and she's pretty lame in bed.  



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amp316 said:
HappySqurriel said:
amp316 said:
I'm voting for Impulsivity. Happy Squirrel must have the hots for Anne Coulter or something.

 

Nope ...

When I was younger, I spent years working full time while going to school full time in order to get two degrees (a degree in Pure Mathematics and a degree in Computer Science, neither of which is necessarily an "Easy" degree) and have spent years working long hours to build a reputation and 'pay my dues' only to hear about how 'unfair' the world is because people who spent their youth partying don't earn as much as I do ...

 

I'm not against paying higher taxes to help people out, and I'm entirely happy to give to charity, but eventually enough is enough and you have to say "This is my money, I sacrificed to get it, keep your fucking greedy hands off of it"

 

So everyone that has a lot of money killed themselves to get it and people that don't make as much partied too much and didn't pay their dues?  This is a load of crap.  Most of the people with a lot of money didn't earn it.  They inherited it.  You know that I'm right.  Most of the people truly killing themselves and getting bad backs (if that's not paying dues I don't know what is)  don't make nearly as much money.  The people that partied to much as you call it do all of the work for people that you claim have payed there dues.

 

Also, I've had Anne Couler and she's pretty lame in bed.  

 

So, how does raising income tax impact people who inherited their money?

How much money you earn as income works in a similar fashion to how products are priced in a free market ... If you have a rare skillset which is in high demand you earn a lot more than if you have a common skillset which is not in high demand. Most of the people who earn a lot of money spent years developing a rare skillset which is in high demand, while most of the people who don't make a lot of money made life decisions which prevented them from developing valueable skills.

Now, I could be using my Canadian perspective (where we already pay way higher taxes, and education is readily available and affordable) on an argument about American politics, which could be causing problems with why we see things differently ... But  Paul_Warren's argument wasn't about whether he could work hard to improve his lifestyle, it was clearly that he wanted what other people had and he wasn't willing to take the steps necessary to get it.



Impulsivity said:
Kasz216 said:

Seriously, does nobody find it surprising that Bush apparently was a better president when it came to the gap between the rich and poor then Clinton... who appears to be the worst president.

Him or Reagan anyway.

 

 

   Better as in he made the gap the widest its been since the gilded age over a century ago?  He completed what Reagan couldn't by making us oil barons and everyone else again.


Except.  He didn't... not really, The Gini coeefcient has raised a whole .001% vs Clintons like... 4% increase.

And honestly I hate bush. Never voted for him...

His increase has been the lowest since carter.  Honestly It's lower then Carters as well.  Bush has been the best president in regards to the gap between the rich and poor in recent history.  Somehow...

I can't figure out why... at all.  I mean with the housing bubble bursting one would think that would increase the gap... but no... it looks like it decreased it.

Honestly i'm stuped but i've got to take the data at face value.



Paul_Warren said:


"If there is so little work and stress to doing these jobs, why don't you go to school and become a defence attorney and/or a psychiatrist and stop whining about the world being unfair?"

I'm getting old, plus I've killed off too many of my brain cells with drinking too much late night Jager / Chartreuse mixes and Flaming Doctor Peppers, then bouncing my head off concrete street corners as a result.

If you can't do it.... doesn't that make it harder then the job you do?

 



rocketpig said:
Thanks a lot. I am now considerably dumber having read this page.

And I wasted ten minutes.

 

Come on.  That Gini Coeeficcent thing is pretty interesting isn't it.



amp316 said:
HappySqurriel said:
amp316 said:
I'm voting for Impulsivity. Happy Squirrel must have the hots for Anne Coulter or something.

 

Nope ...

When I was younger, I spent years working full time while going to school full time in order to get two degrees (a degree in Pure Mathematics and a degree in Computer Science, neither of which is necessarily an "Easy" degree) and have spent years working long hours to build a reputation and 'pay my dues' only to hear about how 'unfair' the world is because people who spent their youth partying don't earn as much as I do ...

 

I'm not against paying higher taxes to help people out, and I'm entirely happy to give to charity, but eventually enough is enough and you have to say "This is my money, I sacrificed to get it, keep your fucking greedy hands off of it"

 

So everyone that has a lot of money killed themselves to get it and people that don't make as much partied too much and didn't pay their dues?  This is a load of crap.  Most of the people with a lot of money didn't earn it.  They inherited it.  You know that I'm right.  Most of the people truly killing themselves and getting bad backs (if that's not paying dues I don't know what is)  don't make nearly as much money.  The people that partied to much as you call it do all of the work for people that you claim have payed there dues.

 

Also, I've had Anne Couler and she's pretty lame in bed.  


So... raise the inheretence tax.

Make in 100% for all i care.

Income taxes doesn't effect people who are given money.  Most people who get paid lots of money either work hard... or worked hard to get their degrees.

Heck, i worked hard for my two completely worthless degrees.