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Forums - General Discussion - Putin says US caused conflict in georgia to help a presidential candidate

megaman79 on 29 August 2008

I thought this immediately. If anything, from experience its well known that a state that has support from a powerful ally often will over extend its own powers due to the defensive capability it has. Israel would be one example.

Dk how much the US contributed but Dana is not very credible in her little press conferences is she.



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Esmoreit on 29 August 2008

I'll be waiting for Ziss to come in before truelly commenting. Let's just say I was surprised that none of the Asian country's backed russia, that must have been a surprise for them aswell.



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ziss on 29 August 2008

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Kasz216 on 29 August 2008
Esmoreit said:
I'll be waiting for Ziss to come in before truelly commenting. Let's just say I was surprised that none of the Asian country's backed russia, that must have been a surprise for them aswell.

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Kasz216 on 29 August 2008
Esmoreit said:
I'll be waiting for Ziss to come in before truelly commenting. Let's just say I was surprised that none of the Asian country's backed russia, that must have been a surprise for them aswell.

It shouldn't be... the other southern caucus states are pissed about it because Georgia was their only way to get to the western countries.

Russia's illegal and iladvised invasion has cost them needed economic growth. 

Hell the southern Caucuas states are only friendly with Russia because they're afraid the Russians will invade them again.  Look at what the Russians did in Armenia and Azerbaijan.  Now THAT was a henious thing.  They fought on both sides.  Not one side, then switched to the other.... but jumped back and forth to make sure both sides were weakened.

Unless they mean like... China.  Which it's obvious why the Chinese would refuse to do so.

The only countries likely to agree with Russia anytime soon are Iran and... maybe Serbia as a "vengence" move but even then probably not since that would blow any tenous claims they still have to Kosovo..

 



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kirby007 on 29 August 2008

It doesn't sound really all that strange



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MrBubbles on 29 August 2008

venezuala and cuba have both spoken supporting russias actions



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Kasz216 on 29 August 2008
MrBubbles said:
venezuala and cuba have both spoken supporting russias actions

Cuba i get.  But Venezuala while it hates the US i'd think would be agaisnt it because of their hopes to create a "Greater Venzuala" and fix the one failure of the "South American George Washington"



ziss on 01 September 2008

@Kasz216
"Look at what the Russians did in Armenia and Azerbaijan"

Here you can details? WTF you talking about?



ManusJustus on 01 September 2008

United States wants Georgia to join NATO. Why? I have no idea, the Cold War is over. Problem is that Georgia can not join NATO with seperatists states liek South Ossetia and Azbhekia in their territory, so they have to let them have their independence (something the Ossetians and Azbhekians voted for) or destroy the seperatist movement altogether. Georgia went with plan B, and got whipped by Russia for doing so.

Why is the West upset at Russia, when Russia actually took the good guy stance on this one? Simply because they are opposed to Russia. Russia wanted unity in Serbia and Kosovo (something many other European nations wanted) while the United States pushed for their indepenece, now a similar seperatist state wants independence and the United States is ignoring them and crimes against them just to get at Russia.

And how is defending South Ossetia any worse than the United States in Iraq? Consistency please, either you think its okay to invade other countries for political reasons or you dont, but you cant have them both.