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Obliterator1700 said:
theprof00 said:

http://www.macalester.edu/psychology/whathap/ubnrp/smell/memory.html, last paragraph and this:

Olfaction is the sensory modality that is physically closest to the limbic system, of which the hippocampus and amygdala are a part, and which is responsible for emotions and memory. Indeed this may be why odor-evoked memories are unusually emotionally potent (1996).

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1751 hal;fway down ctrl+F smell and memory

"Smell evokes memory in a way that no other sense can"

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:2WUYDuGbPqQJ:www.cas.uio.no/Publications/Cas04no1/screen.pdf+smell+memory&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us

i can't quote anything from there for some reason.

memory and hearing

http://psychcentral.com/news/2008/07/22/memory-impairment-linked-to-hearing-disorder/2647.html

http://staticdisposal.wordpress.com/2006/12/28/sound-memory-intertwined/

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/12721.php

this last one states how both sight and sound are crucial in short term memory, but that sound outperforms sight a little more than slightly.

Memorable doesn't mean what you think it means...

 

 

Memorable

  • worth remembering
    wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
  • In psychology, memory is an organism's ability to store, retain, and subsequently retrieve information. Traditional studies of memory began in the realms of philosophy, including techniques of artificially enhancing the memory. ...
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorable
  • Worthy to be remembered; very important or remarkable
    en.wiktionary.org/wiki/memorable
  • Describes something which is easy to remember.


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    Now think... which do you remembner more.

    You suddenly have a picture of a game pop in your head and remember it again.

    Or a song pops in your head and you suddenly remember the game it's from.

    The fact that you often unintentionally remember a game more on song then just an image poping in your head... makes music more important in making a game memorable.



    well let me ask you this:
    How many people can sing/hum/play the super mario brothers song, and how many of those can remember what bowser looked like in that game



    thx for the backup kasz
    obliterator, it is you, who doesn't understand the meaning of memorable.
    can you tell me what your first experience of sex was? if anything i bet sight is almost nowhere in comparison to the other. I can still smell the goldschlager shot i took an hour before my first time that burned in my nostrils, more than remember anything i saw, even her face, whom i went out with for 2 years.
    (of course i could identify her face, but i really can't 100% see it clearly.)
    however, I can clearly smell the cinnamon and hear the reggae mix she had playing. if that's not the absolute definition of memorable, i dunno what is.

    the wierd thing though, which is why odor is even stronger oblit, is that whenever i smell goldshlager, i can exactly see her face and room layout and everything that night.

    edit: it's even been shown that people will smell-hallucinate when they have emotional ties to something from memory response.



    tabsina said:
    well let me ask you this:
    How many people can sing/hum/play the super mario brothers song, and how many can redraw the pixel art of level 1-1 from memory

    i think people would have an even tougher time simply drawing a sketch of mario's mustache

     



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    Music. I can recall many games or series by the music alone. Most of them get stuck in my head. As for graphics, not really, maybe the art style like Okami and VC. SMT: Nocturne had an amazing level design. It was simply mind-blowing. The music - breath-taking. Characters, demons all looked great since they had their own style. Along with a deep, mature story, this is a game that will be remembered for years.



    Kasz216 said:
    Obliterator1700 said:
    theprof00 said:

    http://www.macalester.edu/psychology/whathap/ubnrp/smell/memory.html, last paragraph and this:

    Olfaction is the sensory modality that is physically closest to the limbic system, of which the hippocampus and amygdala are a part, and which is responsible for emotions and memory. Indeed this may be why odor-evoked memories are unusually emotionally potent (1996).

    http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1751 hal;fway down ctrl+F smell and memory

    "Smell evokes memory in a way that no other sense can"

    http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:2WUYDuGbPqQJ:www.cas.uio.no/Publications/Cas04no1/screen.pdf+smell+memory&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us

    i can't quote anything from there for some reason.

    memory and hearing

    http://psychcentral.com/news/2008/07/22/memory-impairment-linked-to-hearing-disorder/2647.html

    http://staticdisposal.wordpress.com/2006/12/28/sound-memory-intertwined/

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/12721.php

    this last one states how both sight and sound are crucial in short term memory, but that sound outperforms sight a little more than slightly.

    Memorable doesn't mean what you think it means...

     

     

    Memorable

  • worth remembering
    wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
  • In psychology, memory is an organism's ability to store, retain, and subsequently retrieve information. Traditional studies of memory began in the realms of philosophy, including techniques of artificially enhancing the memory. ...
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorable
  • Worthy to be remembered; very important or remarkable
    en.wiktionary.org/wiki/memorable
  • Describes something which is easy to remember.
  • Yes worth...The quality that renders something desirable, useful, or valuable! Music beats graphics in this...Yeah! Keep on dreaming...Thats why you see no such comparison such as, gameplay vs music, but instead you see a whole bunch of, gameplay vs graphics...Music is whats forgotten in many games...Face the fact.

     

     



    For another example... take Chrono Trigger.

    Few games on SNES were praised more for both it's music and it's visual style. It was probably the slickest looking game on the SNES.

    Also usually the consensus pick for best RPG of all time.

    Ask anyone what they remember It will be the music in most cases.

    When both are done well.... music will win out everytime.



    theprof00 said:

    thx for the backup kasz
    obliterator, it is you, who doesn't understand the meaning of memorable.
    can you tell me what your first experience of sex was? if anything i bet sight is almost nowhere in comparison to the other. I can still smell the goldschlager shot i took an hour before my first time that burned in my nostrils, more than remember anything i saw, even her face, whom i went out with for 2 years.
    (of course i could identify her face, but i really can't 100% see it clearly.)
    however, I can clearly smell the cinnamon and hear the reggae mix she had playing. if that's not the absolute definition of memorable, i dunno what is.

    the wierd thing though, which is why odor is even stronger oblit, is that whenever i smell goldshlager, i can exactly see her face and room layout and everything that night.

    edit: it's even been shown that people will smell-hallucinate when they have emotional ties to something from memory response.

    I love the smell of cinnamon.

    And nutmeg, reminds me of my Grandma (she makes egg-custards a lot, and nutmeg is usually sprinkled on top)

    Damn I am going to make a favourite smell thread.

     



    wow obliterator, you should save this thread for when you are older so you can look back and remember it.

    how do you explain katamari damacy, when the consensus is that the first one was the best even though it has the worst graphics of the three.

    if you are going to harp about "worth remembering" which is the closest thing you actually have to a fragile argument, i would say the music means less, but graphics is about nil. whoever said, Man these graphics are worth remembering.