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WTF, of course we went to the moon. Explain to me all the moon rocks we have brought back. Explain to me the video of the moon rise. Explain to me where all the stuff they left on the moon is. Explain to me why the Japanese confirmed the former presence of Apollo 11 a few years back. Explain to me pretty much every other piece of evidence that suggests we have been to the moon. Explain to me why people who don't believe we have been to the moon are a bunch of pessimistic CUNTS.

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pichu_pichu said:
skeezer said:
I want to visit Pluto...it's so lonely...
why pluto? it's just a ball of rock and ice orbiting around the sun... nothing special!  I miss it being a planet =/

 

I miss Ceres being a planet



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The Ghost of RubangB said:
Retrasado said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
I don't know TheRealMafoo, nukular bombs cost a looooooot of money.

Japan was already destroyed. They didn't need any more bombs. They were out of fuel and ammo and food and starving to death.

It was just like the space race, between us and the Soviets, to see who could finish off Japan faster, to come out as the sole victor of WW2. We were all mad that we met halfway in Germany, and we wanted to smash Japan by ourselves to make up for it.

As soon as we dropped the nuke, the Soviets got worried that we'd beat Japan without them and we'd look better, like we did it alone, so they immediately invaded and started slaughtering people.

So we dropped another bomb.

umm.... no. We dropped the bomb because we really did want to have to do an Iwo Jima-style fight-to-the-death-for-every-yard slog through 1200 miles of Japan while slaughtering tens of millions of Japanese soldiers and civilians and probably losing 2-3 million of our own soldiers; and we would have had to do that too, because the Japanese would have fought to the death for every millimetre of land they gave up. imo, dropping a couple low-yield nukes is much better than having to wipe a 380000km2 country with more than 100000000 people off the face of the earth.

OT: I don't know. However, a good reason to go back would be to mine titanium. The moon's "soil" has almost 11% titanium in a lot of places.

 

 

Japan could not have afforded to keep fighting.  They were out of ammo, food, and fuel.  The military had hijacked the country and was ordering Japanese people to their death.  The American media was making it look like a long grueling war, and we fell for their "kamikaze" bullshit (they were forced to do it, not willing suicide bombers).

Our Air Force General Curtis LeMay said we didn't need to use the nuke because he'd already personally "bombed Japan back into the stone age."  Tokyo was completely wiped off the map with regular bombs.  Why did Hiroshima, a much smaller city, require a nuke?  The radiation from the bombs has been killing and injuring people long after our peace treaty.

It would have been cheaper and more humane to use regular bombs, but we didn't give a fuck about either of those issues, because we were focused on our image as a war machine contrasted with the Soviets.

 

I am not defending all the evil shit Japan did in WW2, but I'm sure as fuck not defending all the evil shit the U.S. did in WW2 either.  Targeting civilians should be a war crime and a crime against humanity.  Why did America get a free pass with the nuke, but now they get to whine and play the victim about 9/11?  We're the victims when we're on the receiving end, but when we're massacreing the innocent, we get away with it.  Americans have a very selective memory when it comes to all the bullshit we've done and still do.

 

Its been a while since my classes on WWII but I distinctly remember that Hirohito was unwilling to surrender the island and that they were planning to fight to the bitter end because they assumed we wanted to control their country and felt they had to fight for the survival of their culture. I also remember recently hearing about documents being released from the period showing that they had no intention of surrendering even after the bombs!

Oh found that link: Source - Aug 12th 2008

Japanese Second World War leader Hideki Tojo wanted to keep fighting even after U.S. atomic bombs destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki, accusing surrender proponents of being “frightened,” a newly released diary reveals.

Excerpts from the approximately 20 pages written by Tojo in the final days of the war and held by the National Archives of Japan were published for the first time in several newspapers Tuesday.

.....

The culture of Japan was one of no surrender, just imagine how hard and long they would have fought without the bombs...  I personally have no doubt tha the bombs not only saved American lives but Japanese, Russian, and many other nation's citizens and soldiers from death as well. The bombs are pretty universally accepted as saving lives...at least in the mainstream. I would want to hear a pretty convincing case to believe otherwise and frankly I have a hard time buying the idea that it was just to show off.

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@OP,

The reason there were no stars in the background is elementary photography.  The background of the photograph is underexposed because the foreground is so bright.  In short a bright scene in the foreground requires a shorter exposure so that the colors of the foreground are preserved and aren't overexposed, since the background is a secondary concern in this type of image allowing it to be underexposed is of no concern.

I have only a basic knowledge of cameras and I can answer that question without needing to look elsewhere. I'm sure if you check other sites they will present a very similar argument although probably with much more accurate and properly used terminology.

 



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The Ghost of RubangB said:

It would have been cheaper and more humane to use regular bombs, but we didn't give a fuck about either of those issues, because we were focused on our image as a war machine contrasted with the Soviets. 

 

 If I remember my history correctly, and check me if I'm wrong. But I believe traditional bombings of Tokyo and other industrial cities killed MANY more than the 2 nukes dropped on rural cities.

Also, I think everyone should see the movie "Grave of Fireflies." It really shows the crappy situation the Japanese citizens were in between the Japanese government's insistence on fighting and the overwhelming bombing raids from the Americancs.



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When are we going to the Moon? Unfortunately, I think a Lunar VG Chartz Meet is still a looong way from happening.

Let me know if you figure out where to order tickets, though. =P



It was estimated that invasion of Japan would cost AMerica and Japan about Million casualties, because proud Japanese nation wanted to fight till they simply bleed out. They were giving peasants bamboo sticks to fight for their holy land.

Watch "Letters of the Iwo Jima" good movie to understand Japanese Mentality during the WWII.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the lesser evil, it had to be done, if you are a leader of a world power in the conflict. You hardly choose between good and evil , everything is grey. Plus Dolittle's ride on Tokio with the B17's did more damage then Enola Gay.


And how people can actually dont believe in the moon landing seriously...



when are we going onto the moon? whenever Brett can afford a server box on the moon that has a really powerful satellite signal.

As for a moon base, sometime in the next 20 years. Moon colonies.. no point.



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stellabelg said:

It is quite sad that the Western world is  blowing up 'We were first on the moon stuf' and marganalize all the rest.

Just ask on the street 'who was the first man in space'? And almost no one knows it. I can't really say what is a bigger deal. Being first in space or frist on the moon? I only know our governments/media are brainwashing us with it while our governments complain about it against RUSSIA.

The fights between Russia and USA have to stop. It looks ridiculous.

Communism is bad and they have an idiot as president/ Democracy is bad and they have an idiot as president.
OMG they invaded a country!/ OMG they invaded a country!
Our country is the richest of the world!/ Who needs money. Kamerad/friends that is something you need.

Etc...

While Europeans, Canadians and Australians thanking god that they are not born in mother Russia or USA.

I don't know why I am typing this because I really don't give a fuck about it.  I ate an American Hamburger yesterday and drank some Russian vodka today.  And if their will be a war between USA and Russia I willstill not give a fuck about it.

But no Russian or American soldier has to stand on my door otherwise they will know why they call me the Penetrator!

what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

 



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TheGza said:
stellabelg said:

It is quite sad that the Western world is  blowing up 'We were first on the moon stuf' and marganalize all the rest.

Just ask on the street 'who was the first man in space'? And almost no one knows it. I can't really say what is a bigger deal. Being first in space or frist on the moon? I only know our governments/media are brainwashing us with it while our governments complain about it against RUSSIA.

The fights between Russia and USA have to stop. It looks ridiculous.

Communism is bad and they have an idiot as president/ Democracy is bad and they have an idiot as president.
OMG they invaded a country!/ OMG they invaded a country!
Our country is the richest of the world!/ Who needs money. Kamerad/friends that is something you need.

Etc...

While Europeans, Canadians and Australians thanking god that they are not born in mother Russia or USA.

I don't know why I am typing this because I really don't give a fuck about it.  I ate an American Hamburger yesterday and drank some Russian vodka today.  And if their will be a war between USA and Russia I willstill not give a fuck about it.

But no Russian or American soldier has to stand on my door otherwise they will know why they call me the Penetrator!

what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

 

+100 for Billy Madison.  You win.

 



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