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I say no hard-drive.

I go more for a system updat (BIOS? :P) that allows better usage of the existing stuff (cards and USB ports... the only thing I can do with USB is to charge my mp3 :| )

EDIT: Also, NeoGeo games were around 90 MB max... average is around 40 MB 



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ChichiriMuyo said:
RolStoppable said:

No hard drive.

Neo Geo games aren't that big either, some N64 games have similar capacity, so that point is moot. Nintendo will probably try to get better compression rates for these games and WiiWare titles instead of announcing and offering a hard drive.


Yes and no... the biggest Neo Geo games are still two times the size of the biggest N64 games. My assumptioni s that they will make it so you can play games off of SD cards and be done with it. They don't want to make a HDD, and they probably don't think that gamers even want one much like they though gamers didn't want online last generation.


I've looked up the sizes of Neo Geo games on wikipedia and the biggest I have found is about 716 Mbit, while the biggest N64 games are 512 Mbit. 

Besides, most N64 games are 128 Mbit (16 megabyte) or lower while AFAIK most Neo Geo games are in the 300 - 330 Mbit range (about 40 megabyte). That's a lot, but still allows to store at minimum 10 games on the Wii's flash memory. Also, the games not neccessarly used up all the space on the original cartridges.

About Nintendo and their thoughts what gamers want: How many consoles do you know which heavily supported online and were profitable? How many consoles had a build in HDD and were profitable?

Point is, if only a fraction of the market is willing to support something it most likely isn't a viable business. In this case Nintendo was right, that gamers didn't want online last generation. Yes, there were people complaining about the lack of online on the Gamecube, but the vast majority of people still had a great experience, they LOVED their lunchbox.



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Well said Roll.



You only actually get about 256 MB of storage on a brand new Wii, since about half of the 512 MB is reserved for the system's firmware. So that's not a lot of space to work with when we're talking Neo Geo and WiiWare games, but come on. A 2 GB SD card is 8 times the amount of storage, and you can walk into a Best Buy and pick one up for 25 bucks. Meanwhile, a 64 MB Xbox 360 memory card is 1/4 the storage of the Wii's internal flash, and retails for $40.



What the, a 200 MB firmware?!

Jesus Christ



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When did I say Nintendo was wrong? All I said is that's probably what they think. I'm still not sure I even want online myself, and I'd rather avoid a HDD too if I can do so and still get the best gaming experiences a system can provide (which means I can't if I want a PS3 or 360). I really don't think the Wii needs a HDD, which is where I can't agree with you more, but the NG roms are much bigger than N64 roms on average even if I was wrong about the difference between the biggest (and that being because apparently no one ever used the full capabilities of the NG, which was over 1,000 Mbit)



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ChichiriMuyo said:
When did I say Nintendo was wrong? All I said is that's probably what they think. I'm still not sure I even want online myself, and I'd rather avoid a HDD too if I can do so and still get the best gaming experiences a system can provide (which means I can't if I want a PS3 or 360). I really don't think the Wii needs a HDD, which is where I can't agree with you more, but the NG roms are much bigger than N64 roms on average even if I was wrong about the difference between the biggest (and that being because apparently no one ever used the full capabilities of the NG, which was over 1,000 Mbit)

Actually you didn't. I am sorry that I assumed that you implied it.

Usually when someone brings up the point about Nintendo saying "gamers don't want online" it's meant to be a jab at Nintendo that they are out of touch when it comes to the things gamers want. Oh well, early in the morning it's easy to missinterpret someone's post. Sorry again.



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all this talk about Neo Geo games being too large... Hasnt anyone realised that compression methods have improved significantly since the N64 and NeoGeo were out? Thats why if you download OoT on the VC it doesnt take up all the memory, it takes up a fraction of what the original game took up.

I highly doubt that a NeoGeo game that was originally 700mb or whatever it was will be 700 mb when put on the Wii. The game will have been compressed significantly. Same with the WiiWare, the games will be (more likely than not) compressed, as more room = more games = more money.

Anyway, i think they should allow for games to be booted off of SD Cards :P



tk1989 - PS1 games on the PSN range from 200mb to 650mb. Some of them dont compress at all. And the small ones... I dont think filled up the CD.

Nintendo needs to do something about their data storage. my free motorstorm update is bigger than the Wii can handle. I have close to 1gb of pictures on my PS3, and when I start using it for my camera, that's gonna shoot to 10-20gb. High storage is your friend... speaking of which, I need to buy a 4gb MemoryStickProDuo, and a 8gb SD card.



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Kwaad said:
tk1989 - PS1 games on the PSN range from 200mb to 650mb. Some of them dont compress at all. And the small ones... I dont think filled up the CD.

Nintendo needs to do something about their data storage. my free motorstorm update is bigger than the Wii can handle. I have close to 1gb of pictures on my PS3, and when I start using it for my camera, that's gonna shoot to 10-20gb. High storage is your friend... speaking of which, I need to buy a 4gb MemoryStickProDuo, and a 8gb SD card.
Well, you also gotta remember that there are less needs for compression on the PS3, as it has a 60GB hard drive and Bluray. Games on the VC will ahve been compressed significantly because they have to be, and i bring back the fact that Zelda:OoT doesnt take up half the room on the Wii, despite the fact that it was (if i remember correctly) originally on a 256mb cartridge, which it filled up basically.