@ Shio: Oy. Where to begin.

In the post you responded to, I made a point to say, "big-budget PC exclusives." If you would have bothered actually reading the post you responded to - which you seldom seem to do, judging by your past post history - then you could have avoided crapping out the majority of the above post. As such, I'm not dismissing anything. I'm simply trying to discuss big-budget games.

Second, as per your list of RPGs: Eight are either MMOs or expansions to MMOs. That leaves five from your list: NWN2 and its expansion, The Witcher, Spellforce 2, and Titan Quest. Five versus three still leaves the numbers in favor of the PC, but neither lineup is very impressive: none of those games, either on the 360 or PC, scored above an 82% cumulative score on Gamerankings.

Third, so your opinion is that the PC has better racing games. That's fine. But don't try to state your opinion as fact.

Fourth, Portal, Audiosurf, and Braid are not casual games. I hate the "casual"/"hardcore" distinction as much as the next guy, but the normal definition of "casual games" is more along the lines of Bejeweled or Wii Sports.

Fifth, I forgot about Stalker, but last I checked, everyone hated BF2142 and Red Orchestra. As for 360-exclusive shooters, there aren't many, but that was never my argument in the first place.

Finally, when you post again, please act like less of a jackass.

I say this with the least meanness and as jokingly as is possible: cry me a river.

How long have you been PC gaming? Or using computers in general?

Nazna and Zkuq basically expressed my sentiment on the subject. My only advice to you would be: if you want to continue PC gaming then you should suck it up and get used to any "problems" you individually may be experiencing.

A great many of "us" flow through the process of playing PC games as if we were brushing our teeth. Not that it's really easy (because brushing ones teeth can be tricky), but we've been around it so long that we know what to do if we encounter a problem. That is considering that we've already dealt with most problems and our systems are set up in such a way that we rarely experience said problems.

So if you really care about PC gaming. Stick to it and you too will one day be happy. You know what they say, "Live and learn."

11 years of PC gaming and if anything it's gotten worse in recent times. I like to think I'm fairly knowledgable about computers (everyone I know always asks me for help whenever they have a problem), but PC gaming is frustrating at times. I'm just baffled that it's still such a hassle. It shouldn't take SEVEN HOURS to install a game, between it installing wrong, having to delete the files, clean the disc, crashing, half-installing, having to uninstall a game that isn't there etc.

It sucks that PC gaming is awesome, it really does.

Wii, PS3 (basically for GT5) And PC for me.

PC is alot like a 360, alot of the games are the same however there are some bonuses.

- Free online
- More stable hardware
- Higher frame rates
- FPS, RTS games simply have superior controls on PC.

You know what I find more annoying than anything PC gaming related? Trying to aim with an analog stick.

I am sorry but anybody with half a brain will find PC gaming very easy. And with a couple of tricks you can make PC gaming even easier than console gaming.

1. Disc Swapping
I regularly use no-cd patches on single player games because I hate switching CDs and my disc reading speed cant compare to my hard drive speed.

2. Online
PC online is significantly better than that of consoles. Even if we ignore the fact that it is completely free, there are so many other factors that make it better. Easier communication (unless you have a mic on the console you cant really talk), huge modding communities for a lot of games and usually better clan support.

3. Costs
PC hardware is definitely more expensive but once you built yourself a nice PC it doesnt cost that much to upgrade. For a hundred bucks you can buy yourself a video card that can run pretty much every game on medium and high. Not to mention that for PC you dont have to spend money on additional controllers and accessories, and games cost less.

4. Downloading games
I am not talking piracy but about the ability to get a lot of games out there by buying and downloading them online. Steam is the biggest example but Gamestop is doing it as well, along with many other companies.

5.Functionality
I remember when PS3 price was 600$ and a lot of fanboys were claiming that it is a very good price for it once you consider all the features it has. Well, PC has more, Word Processing, Photo and Video editing, programming, etc. etc. And I have 100% control over what features I want to have or not. While Microsoft and Sony are scrambling to make a model that satisfies the needs of most consumers, I can create a PC that can satisfy my needs, and if I need something more later then I can just add it in.

6. Just fucking google it
If you have a problem then just google it, chances are there will be a solution for it that you can follow. Years ago I had no idea what spyware is, now I know everything there is to know for practical purposes and my system is completely clean.

7. Backwards compatibility
Can your PS3 play PS2 games? If you have a 40gig then no. Can your 360 play original Xbox games? Yeah, about 30% of them. Can your Wii play NES games? Yes, except i need to pay for them again. Well, I can play games that are as old as I am on my PC which usually requires just minor fiddling.

PCs are better, deal with it, live with it. That's why they cost more and that's why Microsoft and Sony made their consoles to be as close to PCs as possible but stuck themselves into the area in which it became to complex for previous console gamers but still to gimped for PC gamers.

Sure you have all that hassle, which really isn't even that big of a hassle if you know how to fix everything quickly but look at what you get in return.

FREE online play
free patches
free content (Forget EA, they don't count i've been boycotting them for a while)
ridiculous mod communities again for free
unparalleled control
unparalleled power/graphics/physics
more complex games (I have yet to see a successful RTS on a console or a hotbar RPG)

These are just off the top of my head so I'm sure I can come up with more if you really press me.

PC+Wii = win

What's funny is that I almost could have written this post. Just substitute Sins for Civ IV and you're set.

While I won't deny that PC is better than consoles (I just don't have enough dough atm to get a good rig), I don't understand why people are saying that PC online is better than console online because it's totally free. I mean, the Wii and the PS3 have free online gaming...

Yes, virus issues, resources draining apps running in the background, Windows inefficiency, etc. Developers will never be able to get the most out of the systems, also due to highly varying PC setups.

But the main reasons to move on for me are that IMO the PS3 is far more comfortable for playing games or watching movies on a large screen HDTV and like the wireless Playstation controller for playing most games.