Sure that helps, but even Microsoft have admitted that the hardware is faulty. It seems like you're implying that it's the fault of the 360 owner why their console breaks.

So MS finally admits it sold an expensive shoddy product to over 10 million people, that it has been lying through its teeth for the last year and a half, that it screwed over hundreds of thousands of loyal fans by making them pay for repairs for something that isn't their fault (refunded yes but they still had to come up with it) but because they are no longer making you pay for the privilege of going through an hour of call center hell and losing your system for 1-3 weeks it's all ok? I'm with Shams, I'll get a 360 when the reliability problem is fixed not because MS' denial problem has been fixed.

Even worse is the idea that MS is somehow being altruistic or big for finally fessing up to the problem. Does anyone seriously think if they hadn't missed their twice reduced shipping targets that they would be doing this right now? That and also MS gets to move the cost of these repairs from the n ext few years to this year. That keeps alive MS' hopes for the 360 to be profitable next year. They aren't being nice to gamers or correcting a wrong, their system isn't selling and they need to do everything to fix that before PS3 passes them for 2nd place. Whatever good fortune you 360 owners are getting here is due entirely to the fact that MS couldn't push their shoddy product onto more people and requires an accounting gimmick to maybe be profitable for a year.

I'm not so sure that this move will increase sales all that much. I could see it lowering sales even. Market psychology is a strange beast and can operate in counter-intuitive ways. It would seem this would help because most people would think that the system will be repaired for free for 3 years which is good. However, it's possible that what most people will see instead is an admission of an unbelievably high failure rate. This could be what happens since for example the yahoo news story about it, which is the kind of story about this that most people will read, focused more on the latter than the former. Of course, more likely it could have little to no effect.

Last point is that for all the Xbots who can't believe Japanese and Europeans aren't taking to the 360 like the US this is why they aren't. American products have a deserved reputation for inferior quality around the world and the 360 is just helping keep it that way.

"Xbots"?  Wow you really like to kick people when they're down.  Without America the Internet wouldn't even exist, you know the same one you're using to slam America with, so grow the **** up.  And to clue you in since you are obviously so fuck'n clueless, 360s AREN'T EVEN MADE IN THE US.   I'm not sure why you hate America but grow up. 

*Edit: I just looked at your profile and saw that you're in Ohio.  GET THE **** out of America.

*For Mods: oops sorry for losing my cool, I'm just getting tired of that jerk's trolling.

Looks like the emo kid had a fit, now go sit and the corner and let the adults discuss the crap that is M$. And we all the know the xbox is made by 6yearold girls in china just like evrything else. M$ should be forced to recall this crap they call a system :P

I know it sucks but that that's supposed to be a laughing smiley because that was too funny.  I hate America so much I proudly served in the army where I busted my hip for life in a training accident.  I hate America so much I would proudly do it again if given the chance. 

I love my country but I understand the US doesn't produce the highest quality products.  We've gotten better but perceptions linger for a long time.  The Japanese and Euros still have those perceptions which means a US product has to be nigh on perfect to overcome them.  A US product that is far from perfect will hardly get the light of day, especially in Japan.

Yes I am aware that 360's are not made in the US.  Wii's aren't made in Japan.  Despite that the Japanese company seems to be able to design a product that has a very low failure rate yet the US company didn't, that's what matters.  The best craftmanship in the world can't make up for poor design.  Wherever it is made the product is still associated with company's home country. 

Edit:  A troll?  Now sir you have gone too far.  Seriously though, reasoned, even if heated, arguments generally work better than expletives.

Wow you must be in seventh heaven because you finally have something good to troll the Microsoft forum with.  I guess since you can't troll it's great library of games or it's good online service at least you have something to hold onto.  I'm happy for you...  I won't feel so bad now when I hear of PS3 games being cancelled or "delayed indefinately" as they like to call it, LOL :)

asside from the word Xbot, he was hardly trolling. That said, that is a really stupid word and I don't want to see people using it.

Now PS3 owner, that guy is trolling. He's also only got one last chance. He better not screw it up. 

Hey sorry for getting angry, I plan on keeping my cool from now on. It's only videogames, I have to remember that.