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Forums - Sales Discussion - The PS3 isn't doing as bad as N64 did to PS1 when you think about it

slimeattack on 03 September 2008

It is obvious that the PS3 is doing better than the N64. The N64 lost all its games to Sony, the PS3 exclusives simply became multiplats (FF XIII is a good example).



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gimmebanana on 03 September 2008

when i think of the N64 i think zelda : mjora's mask
what a fun game



CrazzyMan on 03 September 2008

Oh come on.

Did N64 had FFVII? FFVIII? FFIX?
Did N64 had RE1? RE2? RE3?
Did N64 had GT1? GT2?
Did N64 had Tekken1? Tekken2? Tekken3?
Did N64 had MGS?
Did N64 had Tomb Raider?
Did N64 had Dragon Quest 7?

PS3 price not even at 299 yet.

Stop complaining, PS3 is only it`s start of DOMINATION.



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2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

johnsobas on 03 September 2008

actually n64 did have re2.

This comparison is stupid though because SNES sold 50 million, while N64 sold 32 million. The ps2 sold 120 million and the ps3 sold???



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mike_intellivision on 03 September 2008

Point in fact -- Tomb raider came out for the SATURN first.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomb_raider

(I bring this up because discussing what is on what system makes for an interesting discourse but rarely makes a difference. FF MADE a difference -- nothing more needs to be said there).

Also, PS3 probably won't be at $299 (USD) before 2010. Sony Executives have said there is no price cut coming.

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aavidbacon on 03 September 2008
tuoyo said:
aavidbacon said:
astrosmash said:
aavidbacon said:
But not if compared to the other plataforms. While n64 greatest weakeness was the cartridge choice, the wii has a perception to the public as a worse plataform. It maybe very powerful, but that´s the perception. There a two powerful reasons to wii success, the mistique around the new joystick and the price, as it´s the cheaper console. In my humble opinion, the price is the main reason, as 299 is very cheap for a new gen console.
If for any reason, the ps3 price droped and nintedo didn´t act in the same direction, they would be selling similar numbers.

 

Wii was selling for a profit from day one and still sells at that same price. The PS3 was selling for a huge loss at launch and has had many large price cuts in under two years. How is it you figure that Sony is going to be able to put any price pressure on Nintendo in the next three years?

 

There is no price cut either of the HD consoles could make that Nintendo couldn't match; their units cost less to manufacture on day one, and will have benefited from much greater economies of scale. The reason Nintendo hasn't participated in the price cut derby up until now is that they have been selling Wiis as fast as they can make them.

 

Now this isn't saying that Nintendo won't match price cuts as the cost of the other consoles gets closer (see Xbox), but I can guarentee you if wiis start selling slower and Nintendo determines its a price issue, there will be a price cut on the Wii that the HD consoles couldn't possibly match.

 

 

Man, you got me wrong. The wii can be matched in price. The x360 is sellig it´s cheaper sku bellow wii price, only because that´s not hurting nintendo sales. In the minute they sense they´re not selling enough, they will cut the price. I think that they can put the wii at a $129, easilly. They won´t because it´s sold out at $300.

My point was, when you compare the ps3 and the wii, the big difference between their sales is price. If the wii and ps3 were at the same price, ps3 would be selling 20%-10% less than wii, not 50%, or 66% like in Japan.

 

If the Wii and PS3 were the same price then either (i) PS3 won't have a Blu Ray drive built in, won't have cell and would not do 1080p resolution and would not have graphics to match 360 or (ii) Wii would have a HD DVD drive built in, would have the most amazing motion controller ever (Wii Motion plus won't even be able to compete) and would have the graphics at least as good as 360.

If I could fly then I would be using my skills to make money rather than typing this from my desk at work.  If today was Saturday then I would be out having fun rather than being stuck at work.

IF ONLY SONY FANBOYS WOULD STOP BANGING ON ABOUT THIS PRICE ISSUE.  I FEEL LIKE BANGING MY HEAD ON A WALL EACH TIME I HEAR IT.  If the executives at Sony were so arrogant and short sighted as to think everyone that bought a PS2 would buy a PS3 irrespective of the price and would get two jobs to do so then that's their problem.  Let's stop living in a fantaasy world.  The reality is that Wii cost $250 and PS3 costs whatever the heck it costs. 

 

I shouldn´t try too anwser you, as you seem to be one step from from directly insulting me, but if notice the thread title, you´ll see that the discution is if the ps3 is a flop like n64 was( and given the games awesome quality, i know cause I´ve played some like Occarina, 007 and Mario, it´s strange that it did) or is doing well dispite being behind wii. Why this is important?

Cause you gotta see the mistakes were made to understand what should be made in the future. So "IF" matters, in this specific case.

imagine there´s a fire in your house and you don´t have a fire alarm. You probably loose everything, but if you had a alarm, you could at least have a chance of not loosing your home. So next time, the first thing you do, will be ? Install a fire alarm. That´s how we make sure the same mistakes are not made all over again.  

The wii is this gen winner, it won´t happena sudden comeback. At the same time, wii doesn´t compete directally with ps3. It´s aimed to another demographics. Of course, there are a plenty of core gamers buying wii, but there are the minority of the 32 mln wii owners. If doubt me, see what games are in the top 20 of the wii chartz, and tell me frankly how many are for hardcores.

I´m not a soulbound ps fanboy. I suport ony cause I want to be sure that I´ll receive the best games and the best hardware support. That´s easier if ps3 is in a good position in the market. But I would buy a x360 or even a wii if I have the money. I don´t, so I did my choice.  

 



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thekitchensink on 03 September 2008
CrazzyMan said:
Oh come on.


Did N64 had RE1? RE2? RE3?

Yes.

 

It also had:

-Mario 64

-Goldeneye

-Perfect Dark

-Turok, Turok 2, and Turok 3

-Zelda: Ocarina of Time and Zelda: Majora's Mask

-Mario Kart 64

-Diddy Kong Racing

-Star Fox 64

-Donkey Kong 64

-Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie

-Conker's Bad Fur Day

-Pokemon Stadium 1 and 2

-Paper Mario

-Mario Tennis and Golf

-Mario Party 1-3

-Army Men

-BattleTanx

-Cruis'n USA, Cruis'n Exotica, and Cruis'n World (amazing games, not to be confused with the recent Cruis'n disaster)

-Super Smash Bros

-F-Zero

-Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards

-Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire

-Star Wars: Rogue Squadron and Star Wars: Battle for Naboo

-Vigilante 8 1 and 2

-WWF Wrestlemania 2000 and No Mercy

 

Can the PS1 lay claim to any of those games, perchance?



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