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360 has more support. SE says it's their new "multiplat" stratergy.


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irstupid said:
whats with the ASK GAMESTOP? do you work at gamestop or something thus you "THINK" that makes you so much smarter or something.

 

sigh....no, i dont think I am smarter than anyone else........well......maybe some people(irstupid?). I just get these kinda of questions while working there so I make It my duty to answer to the best of my ability(without giving the custome some kind of bogus, thoughtless answer). People come in and ask me these type of things, as they expect me to be uptodate with all that is going on around the world.

no need to go all "You think ur smarter than me, arg! IM MAD!". I only address the fact that I work at gamestop to let people know this is the kinda thing I do everysingle day (no matter how daunting).

Basically the main reason I started this thread is to incite converstation, is that not the point of a forum? To establish topics that get ppl interested and might inform them of a detail they did not know of. I am just doing my forum civic duty, that is all.



      

      

      

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c0rd said:

There's a problem when your console is identified with third party games - MGS, FF are two that come to mind.  You're angry that SE has "betrayed" Sony because they want more money?  Why not point some blame at Sony, instead, for selling so few consoles?  In that case, they wouldn't have to worry about FF13 not doing as well as it could (were the userbase larger).

Let's wind the clock back a few years - to the SNES days, when all games were on Nintendo systems.  Yes, that includes FF1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6!  Square then went to Sony's side, for a number of reasons.  Notice how FF has jumped ship before?  It will do so again, if there's more money to be made.  If Sony doesn't do well, do you expect all third parties to follow them to the grave out of loyalty?  You should be happy FF13 is still arriving on the PS3, FF7 (or any future FF) didn't even make it back to Nintendo systems.  To those that think, "Oh, but PS3 will rise above all in time!!"  These people have their money on the line, they have much more to lose than hopeful fanboys.

It seems you're placing all the "blame" out to Microsoft & SE, acting as if Sony was the helpless victim here.  The truth is, this is business, not charity.  SE was counting on Sony to perform better than they did (selling like the Wii), so they put themselves in this position.  The moment DQ9 was announced to hit the DS, Sony should have been aware of the possibility of this happening.  Third parties have more loyalty to money than to anything else - perhaps this is a lesson to be learned, mainly to Sony fans (since they had the leading console since PS1) - companies didn't stick on the Playstations because they were in love with Sony, but rather, the large userbase that came with it.

I understand you think SE is in a great position, doing so well and they don't need the money.  However, that isn't the case - dev costs have been rising, and as their constant FF remakes have shown (even a Chrono Trigger port to DS), they're desperate for cash.  The rise of the DS / Wii is also something different they may not quite understand.  Milking DQ and FF will not keep them alive forever, so they need any help they can get.

Anyway, the whole thing isn't as big a deal as you make it out to be - the PS3 hasn't been selling that great, so these things will naturally happen.  Even if the quality of the game takes a hit, I doubt it would be noticable.  It's also unreasonable to think that even if Sony's console isn't the leader, it will still have a monopoly on all the games.  Just ask the Ninty fans - the SNES > N64 losses were much worse, imo.  Hell, even when the Wii is dominant SE still doesn't take it seriously.  On the bright side - Sony is still getting FF13, and versus is still exclusive.  If you want my opinion though, it's better not to stick so closely to one company, as it doesn't do you any good.  It looks to me like you're thinking Sony is this flawless being, but honestly, they're just another company.  It may be true that MS has made it their job to hurt Sony, but Sony's entrance didn't exactly help Nintendo, either.  In the end, it benefits gamers when companies have to fight like this for our money.

@Pristine: haha, if Miyamoto could be bought, I imagine somebody would have taken him away long ago

UHG! Why does no one seem to get it. The reason I blame MS and SE becuase it is rightfully so. I do not downplay Sony's part, as if they had marketed the PS3 strongerthey might have gotten way better sales. (I had not seen a PS3 commercial in US till the "Ladies and Gentleman" one). I also do not appreciate them taking out one of their most key features, BC, in order to quelle tha massive winers going "ITS too EXSPENSIVE, WAAAAAAAAH!"(Which is utter bullshit, seeing as the prices of the two systems are fairly similar when u add in all the surcharges on the 360 side). But Sony did their side of the bargain by supplying the strongest system on the market. Yes it is difficult, but when you are striving for perfection shouldnt it be?

And,not saying this to just you, but the Nintendo-Square split is constantly ill used in these forums. With a little reasearch one will find that SS had no choice but to abandon the Nintendo seeing as their newest title(FFVII) was betting on the CD upgrade. Nintendo failed them. It was not becuz of money,but becuz it was what was best for advancing the game to make it better. This is not the case. What I am getting at if a company wants our money they should be striving to give us the best game POSSIBLE! And if you still want to tread the fine line that, "OH NOs! Square is out of money!" check my OP, which once again I think some have neglected to actually read due to its longevity.....

 

 



      

      

      

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I hope M$ open their checkbook again to force Nomura to port FFXIII: versus on Xbox 360.



How many cups of darkness have I drank over the years? Even I don't know...

 

Godot said:
I hope M$ open their checkbook again to force Nomura to port FFXIII: versus on Xbox 360.

Neh.. the millions of sales of FFxiii on the 360 will do that trick..

 



 

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Godot said:
I hope M$ open their checkbook again to force Nomura to port FFXIII: versus on Xbox 360.

Me too, if only to see the inevitable forevercloud3000 meltdown thread that follows.

 



"'Casual games' are something the 'Game Industry' invented to explain away the Wii success instead of actually listening or looking at what Nintendo did. There is no 'casual strategy' from Nintendo. 'Accessible strategy', yes, but ‘casual gamers’ is just the 'Game Industry''s polite way of saying what they feel: 'retarded gamers'."

 -Sean Malstrom

 

 

And Wii is the dark cheep =(



forevercloud3000 said:

UHG! Why does no one seem to get it. The reason I blame MS and SE becuase it is rightfully so. I do not downplay Sony's part, as if they had marketed the PS3 strongerthey might have gotten way better sales. (I had not seen a PS3 commercial in US till the "Ladies and Gentleman" one). I also do not appreciate them taking out one of their most key features, BC, in order to quelle tha massive winers going "ITS too EXSPENSIVE, WAAAAAAAAH!"(Which is utter bullshit, seeing as the prices of the two systems are fairly similar when u add in all the surcharges on the 360 side). But Sony did their side of the bargain by supplying the strongest system on the market. Yes it is difficult, but when you are striving for perfection shouldnt it be?

And,not saying this to just you, but the Nintendo-Square split is constantly ill used in these forums. With a little reasearch one will find that SS had no choice but to abandon the Nintendo seeing as their newest title(FFVII) was betting on the CD upgrade. Nintendo failed them. It was not becuz of money,but becuz it was what was best for advancing the game to make it better. This is not the case. What I am getting at if a company wants our money they should be striving to give us the best game POSSIBLE! And if you still want to tread the fine line that, "OH NOs! Square is out of money!" check my OP, which once again I think some have neglected to actually read due to its longevity.....

 

 

Um why do you have reason to blame MS or Sony.  They have nothing to gain from Sony as you so call they did from PS1 days.   And I dont' care how much you sit and say well add in wireless and live and whatever you want to add onto the 360 and it get to PS3 price.   that means nothing to consumers.  To the tech savy person yes, we notice and take note and make the best purchase. 

To the other 95% of consumers they will see the two initial price tags.  Their kids will tell them what game they want or if for themselves look at what games they like  and if they see that game on both, they will buy the cheaper system and thats it.  Later they will complain and think all the accessories are expensive when kid askes for them or if system for themselves and they want to get it ect.  But they will assume that the other console has these same charges as well.

And don't say that FFVII was on the PS1 becuase of making it better and advancing the game or whatever.  Have you not seen the N64 tech demo (kinda like FFVII video for PS3) for 7.  It was much better graphically than the ps1 version, and yes it was actually playable stuff not just fmv that seems to be everyone fancy these days when hyping a game.



why does everbody wonder why microsofts gaming division is losing money because it is obvious that they are paying through the nose for these games.



ps3king said:
why does everbody wonder why microsofts gaming division is losing money because it is obvious that they are paying through the nose for these games.

 

Or it's because Microsoft doesn't have a game division and only has an entertainment division... which is brought down by things like the Zune.