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Kasz216 said:
And the news networks right now?

Covering John McCain, a bus crash and some criminal who refused a visit from his brother.

Nice.

 

typical news media



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Here I was worried about Iran for weeks, and now this crap starts. There were unconfirmed reports of USA war ships (aircraft carrier groups) heading towards Iran, I hope it's not somehow related to this. It could be just normal carrier group rotation procedure though...



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I wonder if this will be the return to the cold war... or the reshaping of world powers. If Russia takes over some smaller nations they could slowly repair their economy.



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ssj12 said:
I wonder if this will be the return to the cold war... or the reshaping of world powers. If Russia takes over some smaller nations they could slowly repair their economy.

Cold War 2 has been in the making for some time, don't you remember all the recent discussion about installing missile defenses in Poland? Russia retaliated by starting discussion about putting forces in Venezuela.

 



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NJ5 said:
Here I was worried about Iran for weeks, and now this crap starts. There were unconfirmed reports of USA war ships (aircraft carrier groups) heading towards Iran, I hope it's not somehow related to this. It could be just normal carrier group rotation procedure though...

 

now wouldnt that be interesting...this just some elaborate plot to move attention  and BAM...  id be impressed.



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ssj12 said:
I wonder if this will be the return to the cold war... or the reshaping of world powers. If Russia takes over some smaller nations they could slowly repair their economy.

Russia's economy is booming, during the 90's they had a huge crash but now the country is doing pretty well. Mostly due to oil and natural gas profits.

 



Just some food for thought:

http://www.stratfor.com/analysis/intelligence_guidance_conflict_south_ossetia

Given the speed with which the Russians reacted to Georgia’s incursion into South Ossetia, Moscow was clearly ready to intervene. We suspect the Georgians were set up for this in some way, but at this point the buildup to the conflict no longer matters. What matters is the message that Russia is sending to the West.

Russian President Dmitri Medvedev summed this message up best: “Historically Russia has been, and will continue to be, a guarantor of security for peoples of the Caucasus.”

Strategically, we said Russia would respond to Kosovo’s independence, and they have. Russia is now declaring the Caucasus to be part of its sphere of influence. We have spoken for months of how Russia would find a window of opportunity to redefine the region. This is happening now.

All too familiar with the sight of Russian tanks, the Baltic countries are terrified of what they face in the long run, and they should be. This is the first major Russian intervention since the fall of the Soviet Union. Yes, Russia has been involved elsewhere. Yes, Russia has fought. But this is on a new order of confidence and indifference to general opinion. We will look at this as a defining moment.

The most important reaction will not be in the United States or Western Europe. It is the reaction in the former Soviet states that matters most right now. That is the real audience for this. Watch the reaction of Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Nagorno-Karabakh and the Balts. How will Russia’s moves affect them psychologically?

The Russians hold a trump card with the Americans: Iran. They can flood Iran with weapons at will. The main U.S. counter is in Ukraine and Central Asia, but is not nearly as painful.

Tactically, there is only one issue: Will the Russians attack Georgia on the ground? If they are going to, the Russians have likely made that decision days ago.

Focus on whether Russia invades Georgia proper. Then watch the former Soviet states. The United States and Germany are of secondary interest at this point.

 



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"Earlier Friday, Russian military aircraft dropped two bombs on Georgian territory, a Georgian official said, causing no casualties. Georgian officials also report four Russian aircraft shot down."

Sounds like Georgia are doing okay against the red army



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Very interesting conflict, but i'm sure this comes as no surprise since Russia just wants to try and gain back the power it had during the coldwar.



colonelstubbs said:
How long before Team America is called?

 

 Russia has a larger nuclear stockpile than America. It is also on very friendly terms with China which is the worlds newest superpower. It would be suicidal for America to engage the situation when it cannot even prevail against a bunch of children and grandpa's carrying home made bombs in Iraq.