Exactly.. logically it makes no sense. Once the gens over its over.

Maybe if Sony abandon their core gamers and go causal with next gen sports games and mini games in full HD with their own waggle, market lower than the wii they will win this gen.

that band wagon has already sailed.  its so hard to change perception of a console as the wii and 360 prove.  wii is a casual console and 360 is hardcore.  tell me anything that these companies can do that will actually change that (brawl and viva pinata didnt work)

They can just remodel their image with games and ads slowly with more focus on some games that appeal to the target audience, MS is trying with their Avatars while nintendo just go casual fully leaving the job to 3rd party and a few core games. They still can change now but it could cost them their userbase and also it may not work so there is a huge risk invlove.

Sigh. The market will dictate the lifespan of the PS3, not Sony. This has always been the case. The most successful console always outlasts its competitors, regardless of tech specs or the ambitions of console manufacturers.

To beat the Wii Sony should let go of the ten-years-plan & surprise us all with plan B: the two-decades-cycle. ;)
Both systems will end with very high lifetime salesfigures.So i don't see any rational reason for a Sony fan to be angry about the high Wii numbers. :)
Sony Domination is over but Sony success isn't.You only have to accept this matter of fact.

This pretty much spells out why people are unwilling. Customers determine console time span viability. Companies like Sony have been around pushing products for shorter life times. Mostly in portable electronics. this tactic has succeeded. When Sony proved it's long generation selling power with PS1 and PS2 they did so under certain circumstances. They grabbed the market share majority by best serving the customers wants.  They did so marvelously that they managed to increase the age range and increase gaming sales. Sony has managed to do this twice. Nintendo has managed to also do this with the NES and SNES. In both companies history the machines lasted decent amount of time because they had the largest market share. Comming back to the consumer is the real driving force of the consoles life.

When it comes down to it Sony did a bad job starting the PS3. They don't have the market. They probably won't have the market the same way again this generation. Is the PS3 really going to be the same machine all 10 years. When the Wii2 comes out it will once again try to redifine values. This means that twice in a row sales will be astronimcal against a console that has held onto the old values that sell to a niche market. They will have plenty of sales by the end sure, but in that time Nintendo will have lapsed them twice.  Nintendo 2 mahcines 100+ Million  Sony 1 machine 100+ Million. What really better in the long run? This also doesn't take into account that the Wii not by design will also run a long time as the PS2 does.

So do we ignore history, trend, circumstances. Or do we go with what and who sais they want things to be? Anyways I doubt anything I wrote will have impact on you opinion, but it's there anyway.

Lol I can't believe people believe that the Wii will die after 5 years. You don know that every successful console has lasted well into the next generation. Couldn't you buy a new snes in the beginning of last generation? Also there have only been a few consoles that weren't in the lead that didn't last past their respective generation.

lol in 9 years the PS3 will look so dated, imagine the Wii how it will look

Anyway my opinion is that Wii is a trend at the moment, trends come and go, things maybe different in couple of years or maybe not.

Alot of wishful thinking in this thread.