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The PS2 slow start myth had been debunked a bazillion times already.



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FishyJoe said:
The PS2 slow start myth had been debunked a bazillion times already.

 

And yet somehow people who get payed to predict the sales of the consoles seem to believe the myth.

It's sad really.



deadhorse said:
TheSource said:

Sony has historically been slow out of the gates with their video game hardware systems, but their slow and steady pace has served them well in the long term.

One thing I hear a lot is that the PS2 started off slow just like the PS3. At this point in time in the PS2's release it had sold about equal to the PS3.


While this is true it kind of neglects two things:

1) The PS2 had not been through a holiday season

2) The PS2 was only out in Japan

The PS2 was hard to find in the U.S. and Japan until March from what I've heard from forums so it could not have sold any better than it did. Let's see how well the PS2 sold when it was available everywhere worldwide.

http://vgchartz.com/worldcons.php?date=36951&sort=0

http://vgchartz.com/worldcons.php?date=37316&sort=0

It sold 18 million. I don't call that a slow start. If you look from March 00 to March 01 it sold 10.61 million, this is despite the fact that 3/4s of the time it was only out in Japan and it was sold out in other countries at launch so the sales could not be any higher than they were. I say if the PS2 was released at exactly the same time as the PS3 and it was findable in stores at the same time the PS3 was then it would have sold 15-20 million in the first year. The PS3 has sold 3.5 million in its first 7 months.

 


 

You could have simplified that down into one statement: The PS3 is currently selling in all regions at the speed the PS2 sold in Japan, thus their numbers are not at all comparable.  The PS3 and the Gamecube on the other hand aren't far off at all (the PS3 is 20% behind the gamecube).  That's a pretty solid comparison.


naznatips said:
You could have simplified that down into one statement: The PS3 is currently selling in all regions at the speed the PS2 sold in Japan, thus their numbers are not at all comparable. The PS3 and the Gamecube on the other hand aren't far off at all (the PS3 is 20% behind the gamecube). That's a pretty solid comparison.
 

Right on, the PS3 is selling worse in both Japan and North America than the Game Cube did:

http://www.vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=PS2®1=America&cons2=PS3®2=America&cons3=GC®3=America&align=1 

http://www.vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=PS2®1=Japan&cons2=PS3®2=Japan&cons3=GC®3=Japan&align=1

But according to the DFC it's going to make the biggest comeback in the history of gaming. 

*sigh* I just can't stand the fact that paid analysts use the PS2 slow start myth as a reason why the PS3 is going to pick up in sales.



libellule said:

AND, even with all these bad point, Xbox360 is not outselling PS3 ...
Rate PS3 = Rate Xbox360



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naz, that graph in your last post is very misleading..ioi's European data doesn't include PS2 in Europe.

What is really being quoted is PS2 numbers in the USA & Japan matching PS3 numbers worldwide.  That obviously favors PS2 sales rates.



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TheSource said:

naz, that graph in your last post is very misleading..ioi's European data doesn't include PS2 in Europe.

What is really being quoted is PS2 numbers in the USA & Japan matching PS3 numbers worldwide.  That obviously favors PS2 sales rates.

 

It doesn't really matter though since in the same time frame the PS3 has been released the PS2 was not released in Europe.  So the sales of the PS3 and the PS2 should be accurate for the time that they're being compared.  Obviously that graph would not work if we were comparing one year sales of the PS3 to one year sales of the PS2.



It really ridiculous to think the PS3 has even half the chance the Ps2 did.

The Ps2 came flying out of production with almost every worthwhile franchise already lined up for it in the future. The Ps3 came flying out of production with half of its exclusives already lost and more on the way to going cross platform.

The Ps2 cost $300 dollars. The PS3 cost $600 dollars.

The Ps2 was a convenient DVD player for a market saturated with DVD. The PS3 is a convenient Blu-Ray player for a market that didn't exist before its release.

Only bitter trolls think the PS3 has any future outside of being the "special tastes" console of choice for a shrinking demographic of self called "Hardcore" gamers.



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